> @Ian - Good. Just thinking, we will want different text for verbs like + that do not > produce results of varying shape, vs ones like i. or $ that do.
@Henry - I imagine so. In spite of what I said about leaving the heading structure of Vocabulary/RankInfo alone, can I rely on you to extend the headings as you see fit? And can you update the page yourself? I've written my updating software, and I'm all ready to go for a bulk update. But I'd obviously like to know the full repertoire of rank messages to show before I do. Alternatively if you'd prefer to defer a decision on a *small* set of primitives (tell me which ones), then I need a catch-all placeholder to cover these cases, and they can be hand-edited in due course. (With their own separate target pages to replace Vocabulary/RankInfo if that's unavoidable.) IanClark On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Henry Rich <henryhr...@nc.rr.com> wrote: > @Ian - Good. Just thinking, we will want different text for verbs like + > that do not produce results of varying shape, vs ones like i. or $ that do. > > Henry Rich > > > On 1/22/2014 11:23 AM, Ian Clark wrote: > >> @Henry - I think I'll wait and see what you do with RankInfo before I >> start >> my bulk update. The devil is in the detail. >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Henry Rich <henryhr...@nc.rr.com> wrote: >> >> @Ian - I will start on the RankInfo page. It will point to some pages >>> TBD >>> that discuss agreement, fill, and rank in detail. >>> >>> I suggest that the dyadic 1 _ rank title be changed from >>> >>> Rank Infinity... >>> >>> to >>> >>> Rank 1,Infinity... >>> >>> Also I think additional entries are needed for those modifiers that take >>> the rank from one of the operands - mu lu mu mv etc. >>> >>> I think @ and @:, and & and &: and &. and &.:, will need to point to >>> special pages of their own. Every J beginner hits the same problem with >>> these. This can be a hand-edit to these pages. >>> >>> u;.n will also be a hand-edit, since the rank of the derived verb depends >>> on n. >>> >>> >>> Henry Rich >>> >>> >>> On 1/22/2014 8:43 AM, Ian Clark wrote: >>> >>> Re Rank Information on Nuvoc portal page: I've implemented something >>>> which >>>> I hope fits the bill for now, until someone can come up with a >>>> technically >>>> satisfying alternative. >>>> >>>> Initially the Nuvoc page comes up as-is, but a prominent link lets you >>>> see >>>> an alternative page with ranks shown for every relevant primitive: >>>> "See this page <http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/NuVocWithRank> with >>>> details >>>> >>>> of verb ranks" >>>> ...No it's not beautiful, but no one is forced to look at it. >>>> >>>> IMO this doesn't lessen the need for Henry's proposal. If everyone is >>>> happy, I'll make arrangements with Chris Burke for a bulk update as per >>>> the >>>> mashup: >>>> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Voctest/eq_iac2 >>>> >>>> @Henry -thanks for offer. The only help I need is if you could please >>>> write >>>> the content for the singe page: >>>> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Vocabulary/RankInfo >>>> I hope this page is final in terms of structure like headings and >>>> Anchor-targets, which I've made to your spec. If you want to change any >>>> of >>>> these, please tell me real soon before I alter 100-odd pages to point to >>>> it. >>>> >>>> @Henry & everyone - yes go ahead and edit the Nuvoc collection. I'm not >>>> asserting sole ownership of it -- it's on a wiki after all. PM me if you >>>> want to draw my attention to an alteration once you've made it. Not to >>>> ask >>>> my permission, just to help me keep up-to-date. >>>> >>>> I'll post a warning before my bulk-update, and again when it's done. Be >>>> warned: in the intervening period any edits of individual pages will >>>> regress. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Jan-Pieter Jacobs < >>>> janpieter.jac...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I agree, tool tips would be a pain for people using a tablet. For >>>> other >>>> >>>>> people, it would probably take a bit before discovering them, and >>>>> linking a >>>>> description in words in a tooltip to a page explaining it would >>>>> probably >>>>> be >>>>> a pain. >>>>> >>>>> I don't know enough about moinmoin but would it be an idea to provide a >>>>> switch button to switch colouring based on part of speech or rank? >>>>> >>>>> Another thing I have not seen pop up, but what with ranks of derived >>>>> verbs, >>>>> the ones generated by the application of adverbs and conjunctions? >>>>> JP. >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> ---------- >>>>> >>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> ---------- >>>> >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
