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Engine: j803/2014-10-19-11:11:11 Library: 8.03.13 Qt IDE: 1.3.1/5.3.2 Platform: Win 32 Installer: J803 install InstallPath: d:/j803 On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 6:18 PM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote: > P.S. I should add: windows 7, nvidia drivers. > > Thanks, > > -- > Raul > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 6:17 AM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote: >> That's an interesting possibility, but I tried it and it did not >> prevent the crash. >> >> Thanks, >> >> -- >> Raul >> >> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 6:13 AM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Perhaps this is related to the api/gles addon, first update all addons >>> then open gles.ijs and change the line (should within the first 10 >>> lines) >>> >>>> GLES_VERSION=: GLES_VERSION * 0~: (".@:wd :: 1:) 'qopenglmod' >>> >>> to >>> >>> GLES_VERSION=: 0 >>> >>> If your computer has opengl 2.0 or newer driver, then you won't need >>> the ANGLE opengl es emulation. >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Thanks, I should have included more detail. >>>> >>>> This works fine for me on OSX, but fails with windows jqt: >>>> >>>> JVERSION >>>> Engine: j803/2014-10-19-11:11:11 >>>> Library: 8.03.12 >>>> Qt IDE: 1.3.1/5.3.2 >>>> Platform: Win 64 >>>> Installer: J803 install >>>> InstallPath: c:/users/user/j64-803 >>>> >>>> I currently do not have access to any linux machines suitable for opengl >>>> work. >>>> >>>> I upgraded jqt (jconsole: install 'all') and I'm still getting the failure: >>>> >>>> JVERSION >>>> Engine: j803/2014-10-19-11:11:11 >>>> Library: 8.03.13 >>>> Qt IDE: 1.3.1/5.3.2 >>>> Platform: Win 64 >>>> Installer: J803 install >>>> InstallPath: c:/users/user/j64-803 >>>> >>>> Thanks again, >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Raul >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 10:37 PM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> I tested ok on linux64. What is your JVERSION and OS? >>>>> >>>>> BTW this kind of check is not needed, if there is no "s" suffix >>>>> in the output of wd'version', then the system should already >>>>> support opengl. >>>>> >>>>> Вс, 22 мар 2015, Raul Miller написал(а): >>>>>> I can reliably crash J by running: >>>>>> >>>>>> clear'' NB. clear base locale >>>>>> require 'graphics/gl2 api/gles' >>>>>> coinsert 'jgl2 jgles' >>>>>> testdlls=: 3 : 0 >>>>>> try. >>>>>> wd 'pc testopengl;minwh 10 10;cc g opengl;pclose' >>>>>> 'OpenGL OK.' >>>>>> catch. >>>>>> wdpclose 'testopengl' >>>>>> 'OpenGL create context failed. OpenGL not available.' >>>>>> end. >>>>>> ) >>>>>> >>>>>> followed by a short pause and then >>>>>> >>>>>> testdlls'' >>>>>> >>>>>> If I omit the initial (clear'') the crash does not occur. >>>>>> >>>>>> 9!:14'' >>>>>> j803/2014-10-19-11:11:11 >>>>>> >>>>>> Please let me know if you cannot reproduce this crash using these steps. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Raul >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 7:22 PM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> > documentation in jwiki page >>>>>> > >>>>>> > http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/OpenGL%20ES >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Also api of opengl 1.3 or older have been removed from the latest addon >>>>>> > update. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Artifacts of opengl lab in labs addons have also been removed. If it >>>>>> > still >>>>>> > shows opengl labs, remove the whole labs addon and install again. >>>>>> > On Mar 22, 2015 1:28 AM, "Raul Miller" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> >> I now realize you were speaking of api/gles >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> I had been playing with webgl and was wondering what you needed to >>>>>> >> change. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> I've a fair bit of studying ahead of me. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Thanks, >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> -- >>>>>> >> Raul >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 1:10 PM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >> > I updated opengl addon to opengl 4.5 and opengles 3.1. >>>>>> >> > All 6 shaders should now be supported. Interestingly >>>>>> >> > opengles 3 supports compute shader but not tessellation >>>>>> >> > or geometry. >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > Untested because my of hardware limitation. >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > Пт, 20 мар 2015, jprogramming написал(а): >>>>>> >> >> An overview of opengl versions as I understand them: >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> gl ES 3.0 gl4.3 is a pretty safe target. flagship level 2013 >>>>>> >> >> android >>>>>> >> devices supported and android 4.3. Any current 4.4 $100 tablet would >>>>>> >> likely support. Older desktops/laptops. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> gl ES 3.1 gl 4.5 is the version that adds compute shaders >>>>>> >> >> officially, >>>>>> >> though it was actually added in gl 4.3. Nvidia has gl 4.5 drivers, >>>>>> >> ATI/AMD >>>>>> >> is unclear, though some 7000 series cards (APUs are 7000 series) >>>>>> >> support >>>>>> >> the 4.3 extention. Android 5.0 and a higher end graphics chip >>>>>> >> (though low >>>>>> >> end intel atoms work, though those devices don't have 5.0 yet) is >>>>>> >> needed. >>>>>> >> Last year's high end, and current midrange android 5.0 mobile devices >>>>>> >> should support it (when they get 5.0 apk). >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> >> >> From: Raul Miller <[email protected]> >>>>>> >> >> To: Programming forum <[email protected]> >>>>>> >> >> Cc: >>>>>> >> >> Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 9:28 AM >>>>>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Labs was Re: Plotting a 3D Ellipse >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> Commonly used? That will depend on context. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> Compute Shaders could be useful for someone attempting to >>>>>> >> >> implement J >>>>>> >> >> primitives (perhaps with reduced functionality or constrained >>>>>> >> >> domain >>>>>> >> >> but increased performance) within OpenGL. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> Tessellation Control (roughly equivalent to a scan on an array of >>>>>> >> >> up >>>>>> >> >> to 120 vertices) and Tesselation Evaluation (roughly equivalent to >>>>>> >> >> whatever on the result of the TC shader) shaders let you present >>>>>> >> >> imagery which does not precisely fit the "polygonal" model of the >>>>>> >> >> opengl data structures. (Smooth surfaces and hair-like structures >>>>>> >> >> are >>>>>> >> >> two examples.) >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> How much work is it to add support for a shader type? >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> ... >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> As for the incompatibility issues - that's going to take some >>>>>> >> >> work. We >>>>>> >> >> will have to iterate on the effort here, with some things failing >>>>>> >> >> for >>>>>> >> >> some people until we polish things up. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> Anyways, all of this will take some time. But I think it will be >>>>>> >> >> fun. >>>>>> >> >> Or maybe useful. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> Thanks, >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> -- >>>>>> >> >> Raul >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 2:06 AM, bill lam <[email protected]> >>>>>> >> >> wrote: >>>>>> >> >> > Current opengl addon only supports vertex, fragment and geometry >>>>>> >> shaders, >>>>>> >> >> > please let us know what other shaders are commonly used and >>>>>> >> >> > should be >>>>>> >> >> > included. >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> > Also note that different versions of GLSL are incompatible. Your >>>>>> >> >> > lab >>>>>> >> may >>>>>> >> >> > need to detect and run different versions depending on the target >>>>>> >> computer. >>>>>> >> >> > On Mar 20, 2015 1:23 PM, "Raul Miller" <[email protected]> >>>>>> >> >> > wrote: >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> >> It looks like the J6 documentation on lab file format: >>>>>> >> >> >> http://www.jsoftware.com/docs/help602/user/labs.htm has also >>>>>> >> >> >> been >>>>>> >> >> >> dropped from J803 >>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> So, ok, I at least have a starting point. I imagine I'll trip a >>>>>> >> >> >> few >>>>>> >> >> >> more times when testing out whatever parts of opengl2/webgl J >>>>>> >> >> >> implementations currently support. I'll check back in here >>>>>> >> >> >> after I >>>>>> >> >> >> have (a) made some progress, and (b) feel like I need some more >>>>>> >> >> >> orientation. >>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> Thanks, >>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> -- >>>>>> >> >> >> Raul >>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 12:12 AM, robert therriault >>>>>> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >> >> >> > Raul, >>>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> >> > Labs can be created just using a text editor, but if you >>>>>> >> >> >> > really >>>>>> >> want to >>>>>> >> >> >> use Author, I have created labs in 602 with Author and just >>>>>> >> >> >> moved >>>>>> >> the lab >>>>>> >> >> >> file created over to the lab folder in j802. >>>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> >> > Cheers, bob >>>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> >> > On Mar 19, 2015, at 9:09 PM, Brian Schott >>>>>> >> >> >> > <[email protected]> >>>>>> >> >> >> wrote: >>>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> >> >> It looks like the Author system has been omitted in j8 >>>>>> >> >> >> >> because of >>>>>> >> the >>>>>> >> >> >> >> following statement. >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> ── (9 of 9) Lab Author ────────────────────────────────────── >>>>>> >> >> >> >> The Lab Author system available from menu Studio|Author... >>>>>> >> >> >> >> allows you to build or edit labs. >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> To experiment, select Studio|Author... and open up the lab >>>>>> >> >> >> >> system/author.ijt. >>>>>> >> >> >> >> ) >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> -- >>>>>> >> >> >> >> (B=) >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >> >> >> >> For information about J forums see >>>>>> >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >> >> >> > For information about J forums see >>>>>> >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >> >> >> For information about J forums see >>>>>> >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>>>> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >> >> > For information about J forums see >>>>>> >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>>>> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >> >> For information about J forums see >>>>>> >> >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>>>> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >> >> For information about J forums see >>>>>> >> >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > -- >>>>>> >> > regards, >>>>>> >> > ==================================================== >>>>>> >> > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 >>>>>> >> > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 >>>>>> >> > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --armor --export 4434BAB3 >>>>>> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >> > For information about J forums see >>>>>> >> > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> regards, >>>>> ==================================================== >>>>> GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 >>>>> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 >>>>> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --armor --export 4434BAB3 >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
