I don't use the Avid native plugin presets very often, but in my version of 8 they are accessible, was that lost at some point? As far as everything Slau is talking about with a control surfase I agree. Some do get by with a simple interface like an M-box, but I think that for navigating through Protools channel strip configaration you need access to faders, mutes and solos to bring a real world fluidity to your sessions. I am selling a Digi 002 for $250 OBO, it has been a good surface, but I moved up to a 003 and have no use for it at this point. I also am letting go of an Mackie Onyx 1640I, but it is not a surface, it is a fire wire annalog style interface. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Slau Halatyn" <slauhala...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: Getting started with Protools 11


I feel I need to step in here and just clarify something so that there's no misunderstanding. The Avid plug-ins are accessible in the sense that pretty much all parameters are visible and editable. Factory presets for Avid plug-ins are not yet 100% accessible in the sense that the table is not yet readable. One can certainly choose a preset but can't read the name until it is selected. It's sort of a nuisance but, for those who absolutely prefer to use presets as a starting point, that's the deal. Otherwise, one can manually adjust everything on the fly. Third-party plug-ins are the same except for the fact that they often have their own browsers for presets which are mostly not accessible yet. Many are aware of the issue and I'm sure things will get better on the preset accessibility. In the mean time, it's sometimes possible to have sighted assistance for accessing the third-party presets and then save them in Avid's library. It's tedious and time-consuming but possibly worth it for certain plug-ins.

Lastly, although it is possible to use voiceOver to adjust plug-in parameters and, by all means, it is sometimes absolutely preferable to do it that way, I wouldn't want anybody to think that it's preferable to use Pro Tools without a control surface. A control surface, for a blind user, is categorically a more efficient way to work. I would never consider not using a surface for serious work. Yes, to simply track, record, etc., it's not a big deal but mixing? I'd never dream of not using a surface. For that matter, even in tracking, if working with several musicians, if one says, "Could you bring the bass up a little," anything longer than about 3 seconds is way longer than it should ever take to perform that action and, without a control surface, it's impossible to perform that action in less than 10 seconds or more, depending on the size of the session, etc.

Any control surface is going to add to the cost and learning curve. If you're just recording your own music, perhaps it's not of great concern but, frankly, even if you're mixing your own stuff, it's not possible to dynamically change a fader value with any degree of real-world efficiency when you're trying to press the down arrow at lightning speed to fade by 10 db over the course of a half a second. It's simply not possible. A physical fader is indispensable.

Lest somebody think otherwise, I assure you that a control surface is really a must.

Slau

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