Hello, On Mon, 22 Feb 2021 09:20:46 +0100 Michał Górny <mgo...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 2021-02-21 at 13:04 -0800, Gregory P. Smith wrote: > > The main thing from a project maintenance perspective is for > > platforms to > > not become a burden to other code maintainers. PRs need to be > > reviewed. > > Every #if/#endif in code is a cognitive burden. So being a minor > > platform > > can come with unexpected breakages that need fixing due to other > > changes > > made in the codebase that did not pay attention to the platform. As > > we > > cannot expect everyone working on code to care about anything beyond > > the > > tier-1 fully supported platforms, buildbot or not. > > > I have to disagree -- the support code (even if any is actually > necessary) does not have to be a burden. Generally 'hobbyists' don't > have a problem that the support for their platform becomes broken > accidentally, or even deliberately because it blocks something else. > They understand that others don't have hardware, time or motivation > to maintain support for their platform properly. That's the problem CPython developers have - they like to remind they're volunteers (it's not too far-fetched to say they do that work as a hobby), but they also want to play big corporate types who with a flick of a wrist shut down systems and throw users in the cold. It all reminds another recent drama with the "cryptography" package: https://github.com/pyca/cryptography/issues/5771 . And it's not surprising that some people on that thread is also here. Likewise, it's not surprising that some Debian people are on this thread, with a clear message, just as they have in https://gist.github.com/tiran/2dec9e03c6f901814f6d1e8dad09528e (which happened to be linked from the ticket above). There's a conflict between 2 forms of volunteering. Old-school, still practiced by Debian, where people volunteer to *maintain* things for the benefit of other people. And new-style, along the lines "Hereby I volunteer to smash some Rust in the face of unsuspecting users" or "I volunteer to pull the rag under the feet of users of some systems". -- Best regards, Paul mailto:pmis...@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/34ZSFVUUOFKO7VOR4TPMX3RIVNQ35GQM/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
