On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 10:23 AM Guido van Rossum <gu...@python.org> wrote:
> Shouldn't we wean our internal tools off this obsolete version of > distutils too, rather than just move it around? > I think so. We technically have a year to get this done, so if we can't do that then I'm afraid we have much bigger issues with the project's maintenance. -Brett > > On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 9:26 AM Steve Dower <steve.do...@python.org> > wrote: > >> On 5/10/2022 4:33 PM, Christian Heimes wrote: >> > On 10/05/2022 13.18, Victor Stinner wrote: >> >> test_peg_generator and test_cppext build C extensions with distutils. >> >> Until these tests are modified to use something else, we still need to >> >> keep distutils. So I propose to rename it to _distutils to remove it >> >> from the stdlib. Maybe these tests can use ensurepip to install >> >> setuptools which provides distutils. >> >> >> >> There is also the c-analyzer tool which uses distutils to run a C >> >> preprocessor. >> > >> > We can easily take care of test_cppext and add the build step to >> > Makefile. How does test_peg_generator depend on distutils? I don't see >> > an import of distutils in the directory. >> > >> > I would prefer to fix and remove all imports of distutils before we >> > resort to renaming the package. Please give us time until alpha 1. >> There >> > is no need to rush it *now*. >> >> I agree. The internal tools that use it are all in our Tools directory, >> so we can move distutils there and explicitly add an import path to >> locate it. No need to keep it in the stdlib (Lib/) at all. >> >> Migrating to Makefile builds is probably better long-term, but not as >> important as moving distutils out from the stdlib so that setuptools can >> rely on their copy being the "main" one. >> >> Cheers, >> Steve >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ >> Message archived at >> https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/LGF4BJMN3H7L6QFTZTDBMOA2GPZQFHC6/ >> Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ >> > > > -- > --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido) > *Pronouns: he/him **(why is my pronoun here?)* > <http://feministing.com/2015/02/03/how-using-they-as-a-singular-pronoun-can-change-the-world/> > _______________________________________________ > Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ > Message archived at > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/L3JRME4CC5SXJJ2MSYSXBU6OBYLWVKKS/ > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ >
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