A bit disappointing, but very much expected. I just though a bit of effort is 
worth even for 0.1% probability of success. At least from where I stand, such 
change would make a fairly big impact on the things I do, given my expected 
relationship with python.

I haven’t studied much of a history of python and I know how much I do not know.

I always let go when there is a conviction it is a right thing to do. :)

Thank you for your reply. PEPs that get referred to in this group are always 
informative to me.

Maybe I will spend some time going through PEPs to get a bit more familiar.

> On 18 Jul 2023, at 00:23, David Mertz, Ph.D. <david.me...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> This ship has sailed and the ternary operator isn't going to change.  
> Seriously, let it go.
> 
> I forget the PEP, but this was well discussed long ago when the ternary was 
> added.  In general, Python prefers words to punctuation symbols for most of 
> its constructs.  So the decision was consistent with that.  I do believe that 
> such a choice is friendlier for people learning a first programming language, 
> since it resembles English prose.  While I like the C-style operator as well, 
> I think the Python version does the right thing by emphasizing the DEFAULT by 
> putting it first, and leaving the predicate and fallback until later in the 
> expression (right for Pythonic code, not right for other languages 
> necessarily).
> 
> Either way, the question is moot.
> 
> On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 4:42 PM Dom Grigonis <dom.grigo...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:dom.grigo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I am not very keen on long discussions on such matter as I do not think there 
> is much to discuss: there is no technical complexity in it and it doesn’t 
> really change or introduce anything new. It is only a matter of opinion & 
> style/design preferences with respect to logical order and brevity of a 
> statement.
> 
> So I thought, if anyone can be bothered on such question and instead of 
> writing 3-minute e-mail, would take few seconds to answer 3-question poll.
> 
> https://q5yitzu62.supersurvey.com <https://q5yitzu62.supersurvey.com/>
> 
> Would be interesting to see if my preference is an outlier or not really.
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> D. Grigonis
> 
> 
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