Hi Larry, Nathan,

Am Mittwoch, 10. Juli 2013, 17.05:56 schrieb Larry Shaffer:
> 
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Nathan Woodrow <madman...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Having the nav toolbar on the side would be ideal if you could dock it on
> > the right side of the layers panel.  I'm not a fan of having to go all the
> > way over the layer panel to access the navigation tools.
> 
> That's a very good point. What about the Navigation toolbar on the right,
> with the Plugin toolbar filling the empty space at right on the first row
> of horizontal toolbars?
> 
> Here's my reasoning. Nav tools are quickly accessible, and when a new user
> downloads/installs a plugin, there is already space to show it (assuming
> that plugin loads a tool button into the Plugins toolbar). Then the user
> can move toolbars to their liking.
> 
> Any other ideas?

I'm not a friend of a toolbar on the right side, because it's too far away 
when the Sextante toolbox is displayed.
I propose to put the layer toolbar on the left side. This will feel quite new 
for most users, but it makes sense to have it at the side of the layers panel 
and the browser which also has an "add layer" functionality.
+1 for activating the plugin toolbar filling empty space.

Pirmin

> 
> [0] http://drive.dakotacarto.com/qgis/qgis_default_nav-tools-right.png
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Larry
> 
> 
> - Nathan
> 
> > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Larry Shaffer 
<lar...@dakotacarto.com>wrote:
> >> H Pirmin,
> >> 
> >> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Pirmin Kalberer 
<pi...@sourcepole.com>wrote:
> >>> Hi Jürgen,
> >>> 
> >>> Am Mittwoch, 10. Juli 2013, 08.38:38 schrieb Jürgen E. Fischer:
> >>> > On Tue, 09. Jul 2013 at 22:55:18 +0200, Pirmin Kalberer wrote:
> >>> > > Toolbars:
> >>> > > -Turn off Advanced Digitizing
> >>> > > -Move Label to second row
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > Panels:
> >>> > > -Turn on Layer order and Browser in a tabbed view with Layers
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > Print composer:
> >>> > > -Place all toolbars in one row
> >>> > 
> >>> > In case anyone missed it:  scripts/mkuidefaults.py produces
> >>> > src/app/ui_defaults.h from the current settings.
> >>> 
> >>> Didn't know that. Updated the script to support composer UI defaults.
> >> 
> >> Couple of other ideas comments, too:
> >> 
> >> * Currently there are no side toolbars by default. Many apps utilize the
> >> left side toolbar for critical tools. To me, such tools in a GIS app are
> >> the canvas navigation tools. So whenever I to an initial setup of QGIS, I
> >> always put the Map Navigation toolbar on the left.
> >> 
> >> * Similarly, I always place the Plugins toolbar on the right side. There
> >> is currently a bug that sets that toolbar to not be shown on a default
> >> install (that should be fixed).
> >> 
> >> I would like to hear feedback on those two suggestions for default side
> >> toolbars. Following your suggestions (and mine), the default window would
> >> look similar to this (on Mac) [0].
> >> 
> >> +1 for removing Advanced Digitizing toolbar as a default, as all of the
> >> functions are available in the Edit menu already. If needed, the user can
> >> show that toolbar.
> >> 
> >> Another major layout issue is what the layout looks like after turning on
> >> all core plugins [1]. Then, what it looks like when all those plugin
> >> toolbars are shown [2]. This needs some work.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> [0] http://drive.dakotacarto.com/qgis/qgis_default.png
> >> [1]
> >> http://drive.dakotacarto.com/qgis/qgis_default_core-plugins_no-extra-tool
> >> bars.png [2]
> >> http://drive.dakotacarto.com/qgis/qgis_default_core-plugins_with-toolbars
> >> .png
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> 
> >> Larry
> >> 
> >>> > So updating it should be easy, once it's decides what should be the
> >>> 
> >>> default.
> >>> 
> >>> > Not sure if the data contains pixel coordinates and if the screen
> >>> 
> >>> resolution
> >>> 
> >>> > might therefore be an issue...
> >>> 
> >>> Let's try: https://github.com/qgis/Quantum-GIS/pull/710
> >>> 
> >>> Pirmin
> >>> 
> >>> --
> >>> Pirmin Kalberer
> >>> Sourcepole  -  Linux & Open Source Solutions
> >>> http://www.sourcepole.com
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