Hi, On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Pirmin Kalberer <pi...@sourcepole.com>wrote:
> Hi Larry, Nathan, > > Am Mittwoch, 10. Juli 2013, 17.05:56 schrieb Larry Shaffer: > > > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Nathan Woodrow <madman...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Having the nav toolbar on the side would be ideal if you could dock it > on > > > the right side of the layers panel. I'm not a fan of having to go all > the > > > way over the layer panel to access the navigation tools. > > > > That's a very good point. What about the Navigation toolbar on the right, > > with the Plugin toolbar filling the empty space at right on the first row > > of horizontal toolbars? > > > > Here's my reasoning. Nav tools are quickly accessible, and when a new > user > > downloads/installs a plugin, there is already space to show it (assuming > > that plugin loads a tool button into the Plugins toolbar). Then the user > > can move toolbars to their liking. > > > > Any other ideas? > > I'm not a friend of a toolbar on the right side, because it's too far away > when the Sextante toolbox is displayed. > I propose to put the layer toolbar on the left side. This will feel quite > new > for most users, but it makes sense to have it at the side of the layers > panel > and the browser which also has an "add layer" functionality. > +1 for activating the plugin toolbar filling empty space. > So, going with your suggestion of having Manage Layers toolbar on left, and Plugins toolbar filling space to right of Help toolbar, the layout would look like this [0] (using latest icons from Denis [1]). +1 for this as default layout. Couple of things need some work: * The New Spatialite Layer needs a new icon, and its icon added to the toolbar * When all other core plugins are turned on (that have a add or new layer function) it looks confusing, like this [2] (after a restart). To fix, just need to ensure the Oracle and SQL Anywhere (also needs new icon) icons go before the W*S icons and the New GPX Layer goes before the Remove Layer icon. This way, the icon grouping continues to make sense: Add, New, Remove. * Help icon looks a little too dominant, or possible too far off-style. [0] http://drive.dakotacarto.com/qgis/qgis_default_manage-layers_left.png [1] https://github.com/qgis/Quantum-GIS/pull/700 [2] http://drive.dakotacarto.com/qgis/qgis_default_manage-layers_left-all.png Regards, Larry Pirmin > > > > > [0] http://drive.dakotacarto.com/qgis/qgis_default_nav-tools-right.png > > > > Regards, > > > > Larry > > > > > > - Nathan > > > > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Larry Shaffer > <lar...@dakotacarto.com>wrote: > > >> H Pirmin, > > >> > > >> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Pirmin Kalberer > <pi...@sourcepole.com>wrote: > > >>> Hi Jürgen, > > >>> > > >>> Am Mittwoch, 10. Juli 2013, 08.38:38 schrieb Jürgen E. Fischer: > > >>> > On Tue, 09. Jul 2013 at 22:55:18 +0200, Pirmin Kalberer wrote: > > >>> > > Toolbars: > > >>> > > -Turn off Advanced Digitizing > > >>> > > -Move Label to second row > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Panels: > > >>> > > -Turn on Layer order and Browser in a tabbed view with Layers > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Print composer: > > >>> > > -Place all toolbars in one row > > >>> > > > >>> > In case anyone missed it: scripts/mkuidefaults.py produces > > >>> > src/app/ui_defaults.h from the current settings. > > >>> > > >>> Didn't know that. Updated the script to support composer UI defaults. > > >> > > >> Couple of other ideas comments, too: > > >> > > >> * Currently there are no side toolbars by default. Many apps utilize > the > > >> left side toolbar for critical tools. To me, such tools in a GIS app > are > > >> the canvas navigation tools. So whenever I to an initial setup of > QGIS, I > > >> always put the Map Navigation toolbar on the left. > > >> > > >> * Similarly, I always place the Plugins toolbar on the right side. > There > > >> is currently a bug that sets that toolbar to not be shown on a default > > >> install (that should be fixed). > > >> > > >> I would like to hear feedback on those two suggestions for default > side > > >> toolbars. Following your suggestions (and mine), the default window > would > > >> look similar to this (on Mac) [0]. > > >> > > >> +1 for removing Advanced Digitizing toolbar as a default, as all of > the > > >> functions are available in the Edit menu already. If needed, the user > can > > >> show that toolbar. > > >> > > >> Another major layout issue is what the layout looks like after > turning on > > >> all core plugins [1]. Then, what it looks like when all those plugin > > >> toolbars are shown [2]. This needs some work. > > >> > > >> > > >> [0] http://drive.dakotacarto.com/qgis/qgis_default.png > > >> [1] > > >> > http://drive.dakotacarto.com/qgis/qgis_default_core-plugins_no-extra-tool > > >> bars.png [2] > > >> > http://drive.dakotacarto.com/qgis/qgis_default_core-plugins_with-toolbars > > >> .png > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> > > >> Larry > > >> > > >>> > So updating it should be easy, once it's decides what should be the > > >>> > > >>> default. > > >>> > > >>> > Not sure if the data contains pixel coordinates and if the screen > > >>> > > >>> resolution > > >>> > > >>> > might therefore be an issue... > > >>> > > >>> Let's try: https://github.com/qgis/Quantum-GIS/pull/710 > > >>> > > >>> Pirmin > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> Pirmin Kalberer > > >>> Sourcepole - Linux & Open Source Solutions > > >>> http://www.sourcepole.com > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> Qgis-developer mailing list > > >>> Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org > > >>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Qgis-developer mailing list > > >> Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org > > >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer > -- > Pirmin Kalberer > Sourcepole - Linux & Open Source Solutions > http://www.sourcepole.com > >
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