I would be happy with that layout. I love those new icons Denis!
- Nathan On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Larry Shaffer <lar...@dakotacarto.com>wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Pirmin Kalberer <pi...@sourcepole.com>wrote: > >> Hi Larry, Nathan, >> >> Am Mittwoch, 10. Juli 2013, 17.05:56 schrieb Larry Shaffer: >> > >> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Nathan Woodrow <madman...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > > Having the nav toolbar on the side would be ideal if you could dock >> it on >> > > the right side of the layers panel. I'm not a fan of having to go >> all the >> > > way over the layer panel to access the navigation tools. >> > >> > That's a very good point. What about the Navigation toolbar on the >> right, >> > with the Plugin toolbar filling the empty space at right on the first >> row >> > of horizontal toolbars? >> > >> > Here's my reasoning. Nav tools are quickly accessible, and when a new >> user >> > downloads/installs a plugin, there is already space to show it (assuming >> > that plugin loads a tool button into the Plugins toolbar). Then the user >> > can move toolbars to their liking. >> > >> > Any other ideas? >> >> I'm not a friend of a toolbar on the right side, because it's too far away >> when the Sextante toolbox is displayed. >> I propose to put the layer toolbar on the left side. This will feel quite >> new >> for most users, but it makes sense to have it at the side of the layers >> panel >> and the browser which also has an "add layer" functionality. >> +1 for activating the plugin toolbar filling empty space. >> > > So, going with your suggestion of having Manage Layers toolbar on left, > and Plugins toolbar filling space to right of Help toolbar, the layout > would look like this [0] (using latest icons from Denis [1]). > > +1 for this as default layout. > > Couple of things need some work: > > * The New Spatialite Layer needs a new icon, and its icon added to the > toolbar > > * When all other core plugins are turned on (that have a add or new layer > function) it looks confusing, like this [2] (after a restart). To fix, just > need to ensure the Oracle and SQL Anywhere (also needs new icon) icons go > before the W*S icons and the New GPX Layer goes before the Remove Layer > icon. This way, the icon grouping continues to make sense: Add, New, Remove. > > * Help icon looks a little too dominant, or possible too far off-style. > > [0] http://drive.dakotacarto.com/qgis/qgis_default_manage-layers_left.png > [1] https://github.com/qgis/Quantum-GIS/pull/700 > [2] > http://drive.dakotacarto.com/qgis/qgis_default_manage-layers_left-all.png > > Regards, > > Larry > > > Pirmin >> >> > >> > [0] http://drive.dakotacarto.com/qgis/qgis_default_nav-tools-right.png >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Larry >> > >> > >> > - Nathan >> > >> > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Larry Shaffer >> <lar...@dakotacarto.com>wrote: >> > >> H Pirmin, >> > >> >> > >> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Pirmin Kalberer >> <pi...@sourcepole.com>wrote: >> > >>> Hi Jürgen, >> > >>> >> > >>> Am Mittwoch, 10. Juli 2013, 08.38:38 schrieb Jürgen E. Fischer: >> > >>> > On Tue, 09. Jul 2013 at 22:55:18 +0200, Pirmin Kalberer wrote: >> > >>> > > Toolbars: >> > >>> > > -Turn off Advanced Digitizing >> > >>> > > -Move Label to second row >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > Panels: >> > >>> > > -Turn on Layer order and Browser in a tabbed view with Layers >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > Print composer: >> > >>> > > -Place all toolbars in one row >> > >>> > >> > >>> > In case anyone missed it: scripts/mkuidefaults.py produces >> > >>> > src/app/ui_defaults.h from the current settings. >> > >>> >> > >>> Didn't know that. Updated the script to support composer UI >> defaults. >> > >> >> > >> Couple of other ideas comments, too: >> > >> >> > >> * Currently there are no side toolbars by default. Many apps utilize >> the >> > >> left side toolbar for critical tools. To me, such tools in a GIS app >> are >> > >> the canvas navigation tools. So whenever I to an initial setup of >> QGIS, I >> > >> always put the Map Navigation toolbar on the left. >> > >> >> > >> * Similarly, I always place the Plugins toolbar on the right side. >> There >> > >> is currently a bug that sets that toolbar to not be shown on a >> default >> > >> install (that should be fixed). >> > >> >> > >> I would like to hear feedback on those two suggestions for default >> side >> > >> toolbars. Following your suggestions (and mine), the default window >> would >> > >> look similar to this (on Mac) [0]. >> > >> >> > >> +1 for removing Advanced Digitizing toolbar as a default, as all of >> the >> > >> functions are available in the Edit menu already. If needed, the >> user can >> > >> show that toolbar. >> > >> >> > >> Another major layout issue is what the layout looks like after >> turning on >> > >> all core plugins [1]. Then, what it looks like when all those plugin >> > >> toolbars are shown [2]. This needs some work. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> [0] http://drive.dakotacarto.com/qgis/qgis_default.png >> > >> [1] >> > >> >> http://drive.dakotacarto.com/qgis/qgis_default_core-plugins_no-extra-tool >> > >> bars.png [2] >> > >> >> http://drive.dakotacarto.com/qgis/qgis_default_core-plugins_with-toolbars >> > >> .png >> > >> >> > >> Regards, >> > >> >> > >> Larry >> > >> >> > >>> > So updating it should be easy, once it's decides what should be >> the >> > >>> >> > >>> default. >> > >>> >> > >>> > Not sure if the data contains pixel coordinates and if the screen >> > >>> >> > >>> resolution >> > >>> >> > >>> > might therefore be an issue... >> > >>> >> > >>> Let's try: https://github.com/qgis/Quantum-GIS/pull/710 >> > >>> >> > >>> Pirmin >> > >>> >> > >>> -- >> > >>> Pirmin Kalberer >> > >>> Sourcepole - Linux & Open Source Solutions >> > >>> http://www.sourcepole.com >> > >>> >> > >>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>> Qgis-developer mailing list >> > >>> Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org >> > >>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> Qgis-developer mailing list >> > >> Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org >> > >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer >> -- >> Pirmin Kalberer >> Sourcepole - Linux & Open Source Solutions >> http://www.sourcepole.com >> >> >
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