On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 at 23:28, Andreas Neumann <a.neum...@carto.net> wrote:
>
> Ok,
>
> Maybe, we just have to get used to this behavior, if this is, how other apps 
> do it ... Still strange though to me.
>
> One issue though: what happens, if we revise the content of the news entry, 
> just like we just did? Then the user has no chance in reading that revised 
> version.

I can't remember if it was a public discussion, but I did at least
discuss this with Alessandro somewhere :P

The thoughts were:

1. If a minor fix is made (e.g. spelling or formatting correction),
then we don't want to re-show that news item for any user who has
already read and dismissed it. On the backend this means you just edit
the existing item without publishing a new one.
2. if it's a big retraction (e.g. wrong date for a conference), then
we should publish an explicit retraction/errata notice, so that users
who have previously read the news item will be explicitly informed
that they've been mis-informed!

Nyall

>
> Andreas
>
> On 2019-10-28 14:20, Tim Sutton wrote:
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> Hi
>
>
>
> On 28 Oct 2019, at 13:15, Andreas Neumann <a.neum...@carto.net> wrote:
>
> Oh - perhaps the news panel is not opening if there is no news that wasn't 
> read yet? That would be a bit strange, UI wise.
>
>
>
>
> Yes it only shows if there is news to read
>
> I think we would have to rethink how the client part of the news panel works. 
> The current behavior that there is no way ever to go back to that news item 
> once you close it through the "X" of that individual news item, is a bit 
> strange. Apparently, I am not the only one who got "trapped" by this behavior.
>
>
>
>
> I think this behaviour is consistent with how other apps do it. I remember 
> visual studio used to have (still has?) a feature like this and ones you 
> dispatched news items, they never came back. That's not to say we couldn't 
> add a toggle that lets you reset your feed history somewhere I guess..
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
> Andreas
>
> On 2019-10-28 14:02, Tim Sutton wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Oh but that little X is for the news item itself. It means 'I've read this, 
> don't show it to me again' if I understand Alessandro's design intent 
> correctly....
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
> On 28 Oct 2019, at 12:38, Andreas Neumann <a.neum...@carto.net> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Hm - maybe there is a difference on "how you turn the news panel off". I 
> tried with a new empty profile and it is the same behaviour like on my 
> default profile. Once I press the little "x" icon on the top right of the 
> news panel, there is no way to turn it back on.
>
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> On the other hand, if you go to "Settings" --> "Options" --> "General" and 
> use that option to toggle visibility of the News Panel, then I can really 
> turn it on and off as expected.
>
> So, the culprit seems to be the littel "x" Icon on the top right of the News 
> Panel. Once, you use, that, the news panel is gone for good. No easy way to 
> get it back.
>
> Andreas
>
> On 2019-10-28 12:12, Tim Sutton wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I just did a fresh install of QGIS 3.10 and it works for me. I will tried 
> toggling the feed off, closing QGIS, opening it, toggling, on, restarting. 
> All worked fine for me (on macOS). Maybe it is a Linux specific issue?
>
> Andreas maybe you can try manually editing settings in your profile to see if 
> it comes back when you remove the flag there?
>
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
> On 28 Oct 2019, at 10:58, Andreas Neumann <a.neum...@carto.net> wrote:
>
> Hm - I seem to have the same issue. Once the "News feed" is disabled I can't 
> seem to get it back. Regardless of the setting in the "Options" --> "General" 
> --> "Show QGIS news feed on welcome pate" dialogue.
>
> That part of the start screen never comes back.
>
> There is something odd with the news feed section on the start screen.
>
> Andreas
>
> On 2019-10-28 11:44, Ismail Sunni wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> I have restarted my QGIS 3.10 several times, but I still couldn't see the 
> Welcome Message or the news panel. I have enabled "Show QGIS news feed on 
> welcome page" and set the Welcome Page on the project launch.
>
> I only see the "recent project" and "project template" panel in the beginning.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Best regards.
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:53 AM Tim Sutton <t...@kartoza.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Folks
>
> Please restart your QGIS - Andreas and I have added something. He is making a 
> few tweaks, any suggestions welcome....
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
> On 28 Oct 2019, at 07:26, Paolo Cavallini <cavall...@faunalia.it> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> On 10/27/19 11:53 PM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
>
> On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 03:40, Jorge Gustavo Rocha <j...@di.uminho.pt> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Raymond,
>
> You can confirm it by yourself. Just open https://feed.qgis.org/ and you
> will see the entire news feed.
>
>
> I think we should publish a short "welcome to QGIS 3.10" article
> (ideally when the change log is ready), so that we've got something to
> show on first load?
>
>
> fully agreed. Tim already prepared something, probably good to start
> from that?
> Cheers.
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