OK, this makes sense to me, thanks for the explanation.
Cheers.

Il 31/10/19 06:26, Nyall Dawson ha scritto:
> On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 at 23:28, Andreas Neumann <a.neum...@carto.net> wrote:
>>
>> Ok,
>>
>> Maybe, we just have to get used to this behavior, if this is, how other apps 
>> do it ... Still strange though to me.
>>
>> One issue though: what happens, if we revise the content of the news entry, 
>> just like we just did? Then the user has no chance in reading that revised 
>> version.
> 
> I can't remember if it was a public discussion, but I did at least
> discuss this with Alessandro somewhere :P
> 
> The thoughts were:
> 
> 1. If a minor fix is made (e.g. spelling or formatting correction),
> then we don't want to re-show that news item for any user who has
> already read and dismissed it. On the backend this means you just edit
> the existing item without publishing a new one.
> 2. if it's a big retraction (e.g. wrong date for a conference), then
> we should publish an explicit retraction/errata notice, so that users
> who have previously read the news item will be explicitly informed
> that they've been mis-informed!
> 
> Nyall
> 
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On 2019-10-28 14:20, Tim Sutton wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>>
>>
>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 13:15, Andreas Neumann <a.neum...@carto.net> wrote:
>>
>> Oh - perhaps the news panel is not opening if there is no news that wasn't 
>> read yet? That would be a bit strange, UI wise.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes it only shows if there is news to read
>>
>> I think we would have to rethink how the client part of the news panel 
>> works. The current behavior that there is no way ever to go back to that 
>> news item once you close it through the "X" of that individual news item, is 
>> a bit strange. Apparently, I am not the only one who got "trapped" by this 
>> behavior.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I think this behaviour is consistent with how other apps do it. I remember 
>> visual studio used to have (still has?) a feature like this and ones you 
>> dispatched news items, they never came back. That's not to say we couldn't 
>> add a toggle that lets you reset your feed history somewhere I guess..
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On 2019-10-28 14:02, Tim Sutton wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Oh but that little X is for the news item itself. It means 'I've read this, 
>> don't show it to me again' if I understand Alessandro's design intent 
>> correctly....
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 12:38, Andreas Neumann <a.neum...@carto.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Hm - maybe there is a difference on "how you turn the news panel off". I 
>> tried with a new empty profile and it is the same behaviour like on my 
>> default profile. Once I press the little "x" icon on the top right of the 
>> news panel, there is no way to turn it back on.
>>
>> <1a688108.png>
>>
>> On the other hand, if you go to "Settings" --> "Options" --> "General" and 
>> use that option to toggle visibility of the News Panel, then I can really 
>> turn it on and off as expected.
>>
>> So, the culprit seems to be the littel "x" Icon on the top right of the News 
>> Panel. Once, you use, that, the news panel is gone for good. No easy way to 
>> get it back.
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On 2019-10-28 12:12, Tim Sutton wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I just did a fresh install of QGIS 3.10 and it works for me. I will tried 
>> toggling the feed off, closing QGIS, opening it, toggling, on, restarting. 
>> All worked fine for me (on macOS). Maybe it is a Linux specific issue?
>>
>> Andreas maybe you can try manually editing settings in your profile to see 
>> if it comes back when you remove the flag there?
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 10:58, Andreas Neumann <a.neum...@carto.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hm - I seem to have the same issue. Once the "News feed" is disabled I can't 
>> seem to get it back. Regardless of the setting in the "Options" --> 
>> "General" --> "Show QGIS news feed on welcome pate" dialogue.
>>
>> That part of the start screen never comes back.
>>
>> There is something odd with the news feed section on the start screen.
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On 2019-10-28 11:44, Ismail Sunni wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> I have restarted my QGIS 3.10 several times, but I still couldn't see the 
>> Welcome Message or the news panel. I have enabled "Show QGIS news feed on 
>> welcome page" and set the Welcome Page on the project launch.
>>
>> I only see the "recent project" and "project template" panel in the 
>> beginning.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Best regards.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:53 AM Tim Sutton <t...@kartoza.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Folks
>>
>> Please restart your QGIS - Andreas and I have added something. He is making 
>> a few tweaks, any suggestions welcome....
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 07:26, Paolo Cavallini <cavall...@faunalia.it> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> On 10/27/19 11:53 PM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 03:40, Jorge Gustavo Rocha <j...@di.uminho.pt> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Raymond,
>>
>> You can confirm it by yourself. Just open https://feed.qgis.org/ and you
>> will see the entire news feed.
>>
>>
>> I think we should publish a short "welcome to QGIS 3.10" article
>> (ideally when the change log is ready), so that we've got something to
>> show on first load?
>>
>>
>> fully agreed. Tim already prepared something, probably good to start
>> from that?
>> Cheers.
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>>
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>>
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