Tony Firshman wrote:

...

>>I've had to resort back to my hacked (personal mod [again]) Phillips TX B&W
>>TV (hacked in a Video input to bypass the demodulator which doesn't work) as
>>my colour monitor died when I tried to use the QL after a long break
>>
> I wonder whether it is related to my Ferguson colour TX TV circa 1985. 
> The pcb was laid out to support RGB input - even with a modulator 
> disable pad.  I zapped my RF modulator on this by dropping the disable 
> wire on a high voltage.  It worked fine (and still is) with a 
> replacement module.

My Phillips also had colour support on the main PCB (components marked but 
not filled).  The demodulator used to work AFTER I had put in the video-in 
socket complete with a switch to change between the demodulator & the socket 
so it could still be used as a TV when required (rarely).  Then the 
demodulator died - don't know when as I hadn't used it for ages when I tried it.

>>(having
>>finally got a replacement GC battery); the QL started playing up at around
>>the same time.
>>
> Systems areOK with no GQ battery.  You just lose the clock protection 
> etc.

When I first removed the dead battery, the QL initially played up on 
re-inserting the GC before it settled down to working properly again.  I 
finally got round to getting a new battery for the GC and it was after 
inserting that when re-inserting the GC that the problems started...perhaps 
I could take it with me to work tomorrow and have a look at it when I get a 
chance (got mains on my coach...).

At one stage I did bend one of the pins on the connector when re-inserting 
the GC, but I don't remember the kind of crash I last had.  I straightened 
said pin and all was AOK.

...
>>I have just tried to re-insert the GC and it crashes on boot.  Without it,
>>it booted ok, so haven't tried to re-re-insert.  Have subsequently tried ICE
>>ROM and it has booted ok.  Would poss suggest GC, but that *WAS* checked and
>>found Ok - implying poss fault on expansion port of QL?
>>
> Yes indeed.  I bet it is that.
> Slightly bent pins can cause poor contact.  It looks like GC and its 
> connector are OK as you have had it checked.
> It could even be a pin bent right out of the way.  That is very easy 
> with ones near the end,  Typically they bend into an L shape. ie a bit 
> flat and the rest still straight.  Often it can short against a 
> neighbouring pin causing the QL to fail (or crash - as you found).
> If a pin is bent, then take the board out of the QL, and bend and 
> straighten the pin very very very very carefully - they are brittle and 
> you will probably only get one chance to bend it.  Tweezers and 
> jeweller's screwdrivers will help.

Last time I did that it didn't seem that brittle...I'll have to take it 
apart again and check the pins.

> I have seen (and repaired) dozens of QLs with this fault.
> 
> Of course as well do the std things - like cleaning chip legs (with hard 
> rubber) - 8302 is especially bad, and re-seat chips, heat sink compound 
> under the 5v regulator, cable from regulator to ram 5V (this was on 
> later boards) and mains filter.  Mind you if you have a std US QL then 
> it will have loads of mods, including filtering components.
> I think I say this and more in my QL troubleshooting guide on my web 
> site.

Years ago (before expaning my QL) I had the QL failing quite regularly after 
a few hours of use.  Taking it apart, I reseated the chips and it worked 
better thereafter.  I can't remember if I did that or not this last time.

> You could even bring it to the next North American QL show.  Watch this 
> space..........

Long way to go from South Norwood, London, England - Tring's much closer 
(camped near there when I was in the cubs, travelling in the back of a 
removal lorry, sitting with the rest of the pack on our kit bags, with the 
top back doors open...oh such memories...oh such abandon...these days kids 
go by luxury coach - missing such pleasures...)!

Robert
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