the more you whine, complain, bitch, act like a bitch etc, the more you will
be ignored, ridiculed, tormented and abused. stop your whining and suck it
up. welcome to the real internet.
on the other hand you can always ignore those who bug you. filter the
offender to /dev/null and have the last laugh
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Peter Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: linuxpeople thread
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 5:13 AM
> Subject: Re: linuxpeople thread
>
>
> > linuxpeople <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > error: failed dependencies:
> > > kernel-headers is needed by glibc-devel-2.1.3-15
> > > kernel-headers >= 2.2.1 is needed by glibc-devel-2.1.3-15
> > >
> > > Apparently not.
> > >
> > > I will install glibc-devel-2.1.3-15 and its deps right now if you
think
> it
> > > will help.
> >
> > Wouldn't it just be possible to:
> >
> > 1) do everything in the INSTALL on a ``faster'' development machine,
> > 2) tar up the source tree with the binaries already built,
> > 3) transfer it to the less-disk-endowed machine,
> > 4) untar it, and
> > 5) run make setup check?
>
> Obviously, I even suggested that. However, its not mentioned in the qmail
> docs as "acceptable" to do so.
>
> > All of this without requiring a compiler on the lesser machine...doable?
> > (For that matter, ``linuxpeople'', you should be able to build a binary
> RPM
>
> Is that a slam against the name "linuxpeople"?
>
> > from the source RPM on the faster machine and use that binary to install
> on
> > the lesser machine.)
>
> Why should I have to go through that bother? The qmail page provides a
link
> to an RPM for red hat in the first paragraph.
http://www.qmail.org/top.html
> SRC RPMS are as much of a hassle as compiling and moving qmail/
>
> You know, nearly everyones response has been "you should have read this or
> that" well I am here to tell you I do read very well, and have read all
> available docs for 4 days. The docs can not possibly cover every
situation,
> and did not cover mine! Reading is a lot easier then dealing with
> antosocial-newbie-haters that wish they were part of the l33t that run
> Internet but are stuck volunteering on a free software maill support list,
> so they pick on every obvious newbie that asks a question.
>
> > Obligatory support note: people on this list tend to get a little
cranky.
>
> Yeah right ... and some people are emotionally disturbed and should not
be
> helping with this list at all. That guy from earlier needs extensive
> counseling for his problems. Thank god all I need is a faster machine
with
> a newer distro and a line in my ipchains
>
> ipchains -A output -d kens.com -j REJECT
>
> > Why? Because this is NOT a Linux, Redhat, gcc, RPM, &c. support list.
>
> I never claimed it was, I initially asked questions about a running
install
> of qmail that had errors. I was told to re-install from source (among
other
> less-helpful suggestions) for the best effect, and that people might be
able
> to help with the error I mentioned. It is already done compiling now. I
> sure as hell hope the docs cover runnig and maintaing qmail better than
they
> do the installation.
>
> Like I said in this post you are replying to "I realize this is not a
qmail
> problem, rather a small - install problem and
> do appreciate any help offered" Who needs to read more closely?
>
> >You would note that the RPM stuff isn't standard by looking at
> > <http://cr.yp.to/qmail.html> and noting that there is no mention of RPMs
>
> the link to the RPM is on the qmail page http://www.qmail.org/top.html so
I
> suggest someone quit linking it or post a warning that you will be
ridiculed
> and/or ignored by the qmail crew if you use it!
>
> > there. The FAQ located at that page mentions nothing about RPMs. If you
> are
> > receiving compiler errors, the first thing to check is *your*
*compiler*,
>
> **obviously, as I have stated many times myself ...**
>
> > NOT the application you are trying to compile.
>
> **How many times must I mention that I know that its not qmail ?**
>
> > If you are uncertain as to
> > how compilers work (even at a very rudimentary level, as is the extent
of
> my
> > knowledge), you should ask on a OS-specific mailing list what you're
doing
> > wrong. (You might even consider another line of work, or doing a whole
lot
> > of reading on computers before you continue. Trust me, this will save
you
> > headaches, even those given to you by ``rude'' people on mailing lists.)
>
>
> Geez you would no fun at a pep rally and please do not take work as an
> inspiration speaker!
>
> > Finally, if you *still* had questions on the RPM install (sorry I'm
> harping
> > on it, but I've used it extensively,
>
> what the rpm?
>
> >and I *love* it), you probably ought to
> > have read the page from which you downloaded the RPM.
>
> there you go again accusing me of not reading .. believe me this list is a
> last resort! Not only did I read the every doc I could find online I
> install with rpm -ivvh --test and read all that output.
>
> > <http://em.ca/~bruceg/qmail+patches/>
> > ``If you have any comments or requests, please e-mail me at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]''
> > ``A mailing list has been set up to discuss these RPMs. To subscribe,
send
> > an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]''
>
> Ok in my case the rpms did not make the "qmail-smtp" plain and simple,
if
> you read back you will see the thread someplace in this mess. If you like
I
> can duplicate this on another 486 when I am done with this. I know it
will
> happen again as I always use the same install. Base red hat of 112 megs,
> then I add packages later as needed.
>
> Ok you must mean the RPM I dunno man. After that pep talk are you going
> to try to sell me the latest version of MS Outlook?
>
> > Bruce and the others on that list would quickly point you to this list
if
> > the problem were truly related to qmail, which it isn't.
>
> I don't quite understand that last bit ... but I know the problem is me
and
> my 8 meg 486 with a 500 meg hard drive running red hat 6.0 It is a very
> unsual machine the only one like it in the world right?
>
> >
> > /pg, who accepts Visa/Mastercard for long support posts.
>
> Hilarious
>
> > --
> > Peter Green : Gospel Communications Network, SysAdmin :
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > ---
> > "And the next time you consider complaining that running Lucid Emacs
> > 19.05 via NFS from a remote Linux machine in Paraguay doesn't seem to
> > get the background colors right, you'll know who to thank."
> > (By Matt Welsh)
>
> Hilarious
>
> >
> >
> well since make setup check worked
> I am off to go:
>
> 4. Read INSTALL.ctl and FAQ. Minimal survival command:
> # ./config
>
>
> later
