On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 04:00:29PM -0500, Daniel Kelley wrote:
> >
> > aha! we use cucipop as well. there's only one 'error locking' message in
> > the logs, but there are plenty of these:
> >
> > cucipop[20914]: Invalid command capa - -
> >
> > i've tried to figure out what this means, but i have no clue. could this
> > be indicative of what you're talking about?
> >
> > if outlook clients are sending messages that cause this, what steps can be
> > taken to prevent it?
> >
> > thanks-
> >
> > dan
>
> It looks like this:
> Mar 5 18:02:29 gray cucipop[15401]: Error locking hwware's mailbox
> Mar 5 18:02:29 gray cucipop[15401]: lost hwware 208.148.249.48 240, 16 (752895), 0
>(0)
>
> Note that this is a client issue, not qmail. You need to find out
> what "getting delivered multiple times" **really** means. Get the headers.
> Anytime anyone uses passive tense to describe what is going on - red flags.
ok, i'm now pretty sure that this is a qmail/SMTP issue:
in examining the mboxes of those affected, they each have many copies of
the duplicate emails, so it's not the case that cucipop is simply
making it appear as if they have received the message 100 times; there
are actually 100 copies of the mail in the box.
the date sent is identical on every message, but the message is actually
being received many times by qmail on our end.
here are two examples of the exact same message being delivered twice
(from this mailing list). i know that qmail tries to verify delivery, so
some situation must exist where my qmail installation is not providing
that confirmation to the remote mailserver.
here are the messages:
message 1:
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> > On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 03:03:20PM -0500, Daniel Kelley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > i am having the *exact* same problem. it only happens with mails
> > > > originating outside our domain, and tehre's no rhyme or reason to it.
> > > > our logs do show
> > > >
> > > > seems to happen more often with hotmail and yahoo. it's also happend with
> > > > this list! the only constant i can see between the three is that they all
> > > > (i think) use qmail for outgoing mail.
> > > >
> > > > i can't comfirm that this has happend at all when the mail server is
> > > > anything but qmail. how could this be the common link?
> > >
> > > Are you seeing this as SMTP level? We get duplicated messages frequently
> > > but it's always (as far as I can tell) a pop issue. It is always solved by
> > > deleting an improperly formatted multipart mime message, almost always
> > > from outlook. The logs show somthing like "unable to lock mailbox; connection
> > > lost" or something similar. That's with cucipop.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > dan
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Kep Brown wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Ok I am still having problems with the same emails getting delivered
> > > > > multiple times. And am baffled by what to do. The higher ups are pushing
> > > > > REAL hard to switch to Microsoft Exchange so I need at least some ideas on
> > > > > what to try next.
> > > > >
> > > > > History,
> > > > > Certain email messages, sent from outside our local network, with the
> > > > > Reply to header set to our home domain, ie. [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent using local
> > > > > ISPs email server, get delivered multiple times. It is not consistant, one
> > > > > time a message sent to certain users will only get delivered once, the next
> > > > > time a message sent to the same users will start looping, get delivered
> > > > > multiple times.
> > > > >
> > > > > Information
> > > > > Far servers logs show a lost connection while sending end of data.
> > > > > local sever shows no errors in maillog or messages. With recordio turned
> > > > > on the conversations look the same for correctly delivered messages as
> > > > > incorrectly delivered messages.
> > > > >
> > > > > ANY help or suggestions or.......... would be greatly appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Kep
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > >
> > > > > Kep Brown
> > > > > Systems, Network and Database Administrator
> > > > > phone: (805) 560-3781
> > > > > fax: (805) 560-3991
> > > > > e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
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