You don't need to look for any bugs to eat!
I haven't installed qmail yet, I'm still in the planning stages. I wanted to
know how to test for relays and I appreciate your points.
Thanks! :)
>From: Greg White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: SPAM Patches recomendations.
>Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 10:41:33 -0700
>
>On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 10:30:52AM -0500, q question wrote:
>SNIP
> > > > 2) How is it so clear that the machine didn't relay mail?
> > >
> > >-these types of questions come up every week on this mailing list
> > >-qmail has _never_ relayed mail unless the administrator specifically
> > >configures it to do so.
> >
> >
> > I know the qmail documentation says that the default for qmail is not to
> > relay. I need to see proof, not just be told to assume that the
> > documentation is correct. As I said above, I'll need time to reflect on
> > this. I appreciate that someone else suggested asking ORBS to do a relay
> > test. However, that doesn't necessarily reassure me that the Prodygy
> > Solutions relay test results should be ignored. I don't know anything
> > specific about the Prodygy relay test "failures" but I don't just ignore
> > something because someone else said to.
>
>'Proof'? If the relay test in question was acceptable, the OP would already
>have proof. A proper relay test involves the _actual receipt of relayed
>mail_. Try your own relay test, if you have addresses at multiple domains
>available, along the exact same lines as the 'tests' performed by
>prodigysolutions[1]. If you don't have another address available, use a
>friend's email account. If you manage to relay third-party mail through a
>qmail server with rcpthosts populated only with domains that you should
>actually deliver for (present in locals or virtualdomains[2]), and a
>properly set RELAYCLIENT environment variable, I will eat a bug on camera,
>and
>give you links to watch it on the web. :)
>
>[1] I didn't recall seeing recent results for the
>'user@destination@relay' test, so I did them myself. Delivery attempt is
>to local user 'user@destination', which is unlikely to exist and in any
>case is not a relay. The '%' and '!' garbage comes up at least once a
>month, and is known _not_ to be a problem. Check that for yourself as
>well, if you like.
>
>[2] Or, of course, a domain that you're an MX for, but not the
>best-preference MX.
>
> >
> > I do appreciate your reply and I realize full well that I may end up
> > deciding to ignore the Prodygy relay test failures someday myself.
>
>Avoid the rush! Start ignoring them today! 'Tests' which assume that
>they know better than the MTA they are testing how it will deliver mail
>are inherently broken. 'Tests' which do not actually attempt to deliver
>mail anywhere, and do not only count the _actual receipt of mail_ as a
>successful relay (failed test) are inherently broken. As far as I am
>concerned, any 'test' that does not actually attempt delivery should
>immediately be ignored.
>
>
>SNIP
>
>GW
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