Hmmm...I wonder why my Mandrake 8 install won't cooperate.  I've 
reloaded the OS a half dozen times, each time more careful than 
the previous, and to make a long story short when you do the 
make absolutely nothing goes into the /var/qmail directory.  The 
install basically goes nowhere.  I also noticed that this 
directory has owner as root and group as root, which is the way 
it should be if you follow the instructions to the letter, but 
linuxconf whines that the qmail special users don't have access 
to the /var/qmail directory because they are in different groups.

One thing:  the /var directory is actually two 17GB SCSI drives 
running in Linux Raid 1 (mirroring).  Do you think it's possible 
the mirroring is screwing things up?

-Steve

> Just for the sake of argument I have a Mandrake 8 machine that 
runs qmail
> fine with the directions from LWQ
> I also have a Mandrake Cooker machine (pre8.1) that I 
installed qmail fine.
> 
> Nothing wierd, just word for word from LWQ.
> Still I prefer debian but this was for a friend who likes 
the "ease" of
> Mandrake, and true enough its pretty simple.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 8:24 PM
> To: David U.
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: RE: Problem with VAR directory during install
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I installed Mandrake using the 2 CDs, the latest distro
> (downloaded the ISOs and burned the CDs).  It seemed to install
> perfectly fine.
> 
> I want to use qmail because it seems to have the best
> reputation.  Mandrake comes with Postfix, which I chose to not
> install.  From what I've read online, Postfix isn't exactly a
> top choice.
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
> > Did you use one CD for the mandrake 8 install or the two CD?
> Mandrake 8 really
> > went out the door with issues.
> >
> > I would use RH7.1 or Mandrake 7.1 I have installed qmail fine
> on both.  Mandrake
> > 8 has some bad code in the CD -- also, Mandrake can be made
> secure as a server,
> > but it installs a lot of client-side crap.
> >
> > sorry if that doesn't help,
> > davidu
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 4:37 PM
> > To: Yvette 'Tina' Martinez
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Problem with VAR directory during install
> >
> >
> > Excuse me while I go bang my head against the wall.  OK, 
there
> > now that that's over with....has anyone else had trouble
> > installing qmail on Mandrake 8?
> >
> > I'm following the instructions to the letter and the darn 
thing
> > won't install.  I'd much rather find the reason for it and 
fix
> > it than install an older version of the operating system, 
which
> > can present other issues.
> >
> > -Steve
> >
> >
> > > I am also new at this and the first thing I had to do
> > > was stop using linuxconf. Linuxconf seems to have a
> > > mind of its own and it will regularly change ownership
> > > based on its own set of rules. BTW, I don't know
> > > exactly why. The second thing I did was rebuild my
> > > machine with Mandrake 7.2 (from 8.0)
> > >
> > > I had all kinds of trouble with mandrake 8 in all
> > > different apps.
> > >
> > > So far with mandrake 7.2 back online all my installs
> > > have been clean.
> > >
> > > I use the command line mostly and webmin to look at
> > > users and groups...
> > >
> > > Tina
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Steve Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Well I think I may have located the source of the
> > > > trouble but
> > > > it's still puzzling. Both the Life With Qmail and
> > > > the Running
> > > > qmail book want the /var/qmail directory created
> > > > while logged in
> > > > as root. That gives ownership to the user root in
> > > > the group
> > > > root. Then, the qmail-specific groups and users are
> > > > added. The
> > > > problem is that when I run linuxconf and look at the
> > > > created
> > > > users, I receive a warning that the home directory
> > > > of /var/qmail
> > > > has an invalid owner and group. Could this be the
> > > > cause of my
> > > > problems? I'm not exactly a newbie to file and
> > > > directory
> > > > permissions, but in reading all the qmail
> > > > documentation I can
> > > > lay my hands on I see nothing that indicates I need
> > > > to change
> > > > the ownership and group of /var/qmail from
> > > > root/root.
> > > > Nevertheless, linuxconf is whining and my compile
> > > > goes nowhere,
> > > > and this all smells like a permissions issue.
> > > >
> > > > I'm running Mandrake 8.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your patient help.
> > > >
> > > > Steve.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 02:43:15PM +1200, Steve
> > > > Reed wrote:
> > > > > > So, I'm stumped.  Why is config (or config-fast)
> > > > unhappy?
> > > > >
> > > > > Because it's expecting dirs and stuff in
> > > > /var/qmail that
> > > > aren't there.
> > > > >
> > > > > Run "strings - install | grep /" and look for a
> > > > fully-
> > > > qualified path
> > > > > (ie. starting with a slash) that doesn't look
> > > > system-related.
> > > > In your
> > > > > case, since you didn't change conf-qmail, you
> > > > should
> > > > see /var/qmail.
> > > > > If you see something else instead, that's where
> > > > all your qmail
> > > > stuff got
> > > > > installed -- all you gotta do is figure out why it
> > > > went
> > > > there.  8-)
> > > > >
> > > > > - Adrian
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
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