Well I guess that kind of puts the nail in the coffin.  Mandrake 
is supposed to be a top-notch distro - too bad they barfed all 
over version 8.  I'll go snag the 7.2 ISOs and start all over 
again.  

Good thing, this mailing list!

-Steve


> I downloaded the ISO's and burned CDS for 7.2.  I
> purchased the cd for 8.0 and installed from it. 
> 
> I chose qmail because of its reputation as well as the
> availability of add-ons. For example there is a good
> free webmail program I got from inter7 which supports
> virtual hosts and webmin has a module to support
> remote admin. 
> 
> I couldn't install my firewall under 8 and ximian
> gnome upgrade install was also not supported
> 
> I couldn't get daemontools to compile without errors
> either. 
> 
> I gave up spending so much time trying to figure out
> what was wrong and went back to 7.2
> 
> T.
> 
> --- Steve Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I installed Mandrake using the 2 CDs, the latest
> > distro 
> > (downloaded the ISOs and burned the CDs).  It seemed
> > to install 
> > perfectly fine.
> > 
> > I want to use qmail because it seems to have the
> > best 
> > reputation.  Mandrake comes with Postfix, which I
> > chose to not 
> > install.  From what I've read online, Postfix isn't
> > exactly a 
> > top choice.
> > 
> > Steve
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Did you use one CD for the mandrake 8 install or
> > the two CD?  
> > Mandrake 8 really
> > > went out the door with issues.
> > > 
> > > I would use RH7.1 or Mandrake 7.1 I have installed
> > qmail fine 
> > on both.  Mandrake
> > > 8 has some bad code in the CD -- also, Mandrake
> > can be made 
> > secure as a server,
> > > but it installs a lot of client-side crap.
> > > 
> > > sorry if that doesn't help,
> > > davidu
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Steve Reed
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 4:37 PM
> > > To: Yvette 'Tina' Martinez
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Problem with VAR directory during
> > install
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Excuse me while I go bang my head against the
> > wall.  OK, there
> > > now that that's over with....has anyone else had
> > trouble
> > > installing qmail on Mandrake 8?
> > > 
> > > I'm following the instructions to the letter and
> > the darn thing
> > > won't install.  I'd much rather find the reason
> > for it and fix
> > > it than install an older version of the operating
> > system, which
> > > can present other issues.
> > > 
> > > -Steve
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > I am also new at this and the first thing I had
> > to do
> > > > was stop using linuxconf. Linuxconf seems to
> > have a
> > > > mind of its own and it will regularly change
> > ownership
> > > > based on its own set of rules. BTW, I don't know
> > > > exactly why. The second thing I did was rebuild
> > my
> > > > machine with Mandrake 7.2 (from 8.0)
> > > >
> > > > I had all kinds of trouble with mandrake 8 in
> > all
> > > > different apps.
> > > >
> > > > So far with mandrake 7.2 back online all my
> > installs
> > > > have been clean.
> > > >
> > > > I use the command line mostly and webmin to look
> > at
> > > > users and groups...
> > > >
> > > > Tina
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Steve Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > Well I think I may have located the source of
> > the
> > > > > trouble but
> > > > > it's still puzzling. Both the Life With Qmail
> > and
> > > > > the Running
> > > > > qmail book want the /var/qmail directory
> > created
> > > > > while logged in
> > > > > as root. That gives ownership to the user root
> > in
> > > > > the group
> > > > > root. Then, the qmail-specific groups and
> > users are
> > > > > added. The
> > > > > problem is that when I run linuxconf and look
> > at the
> > > > > created
> > > > > users, I receive a warning that the home
> > directory
> > > > > of /var/qmail
> > > > > has an invalid owner and group. Could this be
> > the
> > > > > cause of my
> > > > > problems? I'm not exactly a newbie to file and
> > > > > directory
> > > > > permissions, but in reading all the qmail
> > > > > documentation I can
> > > > > lay my hands on I see nothing that indicates I
> > need
> > > > > to change
> > > > > the ownership and group of /var/qmail from
> > > > > root/root.
> > > > > Nevertheless, linuxconf is whining and my
> > compile
> > > > > goes nowhere,
> > > > > and this all smells like a permissions issue.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm running Mandrake 8.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your patient help.
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 02:43:15PM +1200,
> > Steve
> > > > > Reed wrote:
> > > > > > > So, I'm stumped.  Why is config (or
> > config-fast)
> > > > > unhappy?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Because it's expecting dirs and stuff in
> > > > > /var/qmail that
> > > > > aren't there.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Run "strings - install | grep /" and look
> > for a
> > > > > fully-
> > > > > qualified path
> > > > > > (ie. starting with a slash) that doesn't
> > look
> > > > > system-related.
> > > > > In your
> > > > > > case, since you didn't change conf-qmail,
> > you
> > > > > should
> > > > > see /var/qmail.
> > > > > > If you see something else instead, that's
> > where
> > > > > all your qmail
> > > > > stuff got
> > > > > > installed -- all you gotta do is figure out
> > why it
> > > > > went
> > > > > there.  8-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Adrian
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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