I used the qtp script qtp-sa-update, so yes, I believe that would qualify as 'an automated sa-update configurator'.

I'll have to wait until late tonight or some time this weekend to attempt the rebuild and re-install.

On May 8, 2008, at 11:48 AM, James Pratt wrote:


-----Original Message-----
From: Roxanne Sandesara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:24 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Soft Rejections

So, having run "find / -type f | xargs grep -i "spamassassin-toaster-
root", I find the following:

/usr/bin/sa-compile:my $LOCAL_RULES_DIR = '/var/tmp/spamassassin-
toaster-root/etc/mail/spamassassin';    # substituted at 'make' time
/usr/bin/sa-learn:my $LOCAL_RULES_DIR = '/var/tmp/spamassassin-
toaster-root/etc/mail/spamassassin';  # substituted at 'make' time
/usr/bin/sa-update:my $LOCAL_RULES_DIR = '/var/tmp/spamassassin-
toaster-root/etc/mail/spamassassin';    # substituted at 'make' time
/usr/bin/sa-update:     'LOCAL_RULES_DIR'       => '/var/tmp/
spamassassin-toaster-root/etc/mail/spamassassin',
/usr/bin/sa-update:        /var/tmp/spamassassin-toaster-root/etc/
mail/spamassassin/sa-update-keys
Binary file /usr/bin/spamc matches
/usr/bin/spamd:my $LOCAL_RULES_DIR = '/var/tmp/spamassassin-toaster-
root/etc/mail/spamassassin';    # substituted at 'make' time
/usr/bin/spamassassin:my $LOCAL_RULES_DIR = '/var/tmp/spamassassin-
toaster-root/etc/mail/spamassassin';    # substituted at 'make' time
/usr/bin/spamassassin:=item /var/tmp/spamassassin-toaster-root/etc/
mail/spamassassin
/usr/bin/spamassassin:=item /var/tmp/spamassassin-toaster-root/etc/
mail/spamassassin

So this clearly came into place when I added sa-update in place of
RulesDuJour this past weekend. I don't know if that's normal or not,
but I'm assuming not, since no one else recognized that path or
considered it valid except during build/compile/install.

Chkrootkit found nothing.

My guess would be, at this point, I open sa-compile, sa-learn, sao-
update, etc., in vi, find those instances of that directory and
redirect them to where they should be? Which would be /etc/mail/
spamassassin ?



No , you will just end up pulling your hair out , especially if you have
to try and guess paths .. rebuild the entire sa package using rpmbuild
...

The sa-learn, sa-compile, and sa-update files are created upon SA
installation, so I can't see how just setting up sa-update would rebuild
everything like that unless you used some type of automated sa-update
configurator or something... (?)

The spamassassin executable (perl script) should look something like:

$ strings /usr/bin/spamassassin | grep LOCAL

my $LOCAL_RULES_DIR = '/etc/mail/spamassassin';    # substituted at
'make' time
my $LOCAL_STATE_DIR = '/var/lib/spamassassin';    # substituted at
'make' time
    LOCAL_RULES_DIR     => $LOCAL_RULES_DIR,
    LOCAL_STATE_DIR     => $LOCAL_STATE_DIR,

(This is from a sendmail box, so the paths may be different. I can't get
into my toaster server right now. :\

Cheers,
jp


Roxanne

On May 7, 2008, at 8:39 PM, James Pratt wrote:

With all due respect, I see *nothing* that indicates *any* sort of
dns
issue here. The problem is that the Spamassassin installation is
trying
to create temp files in a very non-standard directory, as Eric said
in a
prior post.

I would guess the build is just plain messed up - what does rpm -ql
Spamassassin-toaster say? Inspect the rebuild output closely after.
Do
not rebuild it as the root user.

If I were you, I would re-rpmbuild, and also run chkrootkit, and/or
rkhunter... many people (still!) compile things as root. That is a
very
bad thing, qmail or no. :(

Regards,
jp

-----Original Message-----
From: Roxanne Sandesara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 8:24 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Soft Rejections

No, nothing in the blacklists file. And Spamassassin's RBL checks
are
turned off in local.cf.
I'm running chrooted Bind, not a caching nameserver.

And yes. I was su - into vpopmail's shell to run the spamassassin
--
lint -D tests.

Roxanne

On May 7, 2008, at 7:29 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:

Roxanne Sandesara wrote:
DNS appears to be working. I have no idea if an RBL site is down.
At
this point I've deactivated spamdyke, which was the only thing
doing RBL
checks, so that shouldn't be an issue anymore.

You have nothing in /var/qmail/control/blacklists? That would do
rbl
checking. Spamassassin probably is as well, unless you are running
it with
the -L (local checks only) option.

Are you running a caching-nameserver on the toaster? That isn't
absolutely
required, but highly recommended.

I still have this nonsense SpamAssassin perl module error, and no
way to
correct it.

Are you running spamassassin commands with "sudo -u vpopmail -h"?
You need to always run spamassassin as vpopmail user. Otherwise it
won't
pick up the correct environment.

Roxanne

On May 7, 2008, at 4:52 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:

Sounds a bit like a DNS issue to me. Is your DNS not working, or
perhaps an
RBL site down?

Roxanne Sandesara wrote:
I've had spamdyke running for a week without any problems until
today
(if indeed Spamdyke is the problem). However, thanks for the
advice. I
went back, found that discussion from last week, and have - at
least
temporarily - deactivated spamdyke.

However, this has not corrected my problem. Messages are still
being
soft-rejected, even after turning off spamdyke and restarting
qmail.

I've got this strange permissions problem with what must be a
created
subdirectory in /tmp, which seems to be causing errors with
SpamAssassin. I have no idea if that could be causing the soft
rejects
or not, but I'd - obviously - like to correct it. but I can't
find
anything on the Net matching the error message with the
directory.

Still looking for help.

Roxanne

On May 7, 2008, at 3:34 PM, im.fuzzy wrote:

Roxanne Sandesara wrote:
Further searching. I found an instance of this in the
archives
that
suggested running a spamassassin --lint.

I did so, and got the following:
# spamassassin --lint
check: no loaded plugin implements 'check_main': cannot scan!
at
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/
PerMsgStatus.pm
line 164.

Help? I'm not sure what to do here.

Roxanne

On May 7, 2008, at 3:10 PM, Roxanne Sandesara wrote:
spamdyke has to be configured...it is not a plug-n-play (like
so much
of the toaster stuff is) for us noobs, in my experience.

i had had the watchall running and installed spamdyke...my
supplier
emails started being being delayed/ rejected/whatever  mostly
for the
rdns checks...uninstalled spamdyke immediately...revisit it
later in
off-peak times for me

igor or ivan asked 'spamdyke uninstall...howto' about a week
ago...that is how i fixed my toaster

fuzz


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