Ah, ok... that explains it ... So whoever wrote this qtp-sa-update deserves a smackdown... What are they thinking by touching the SA executables ? That is just *very* bad (I would dare say *evil* ;) programming... :\
Note to others: Configure sa-update's using these instructions - simple, to the point, and it wont' touch your binaries/scripts... http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/RuleUpdates ... and for ditching RDJ, there is openprotect.com's SARE rule channel: http://saupdates.openprotect.com/ Cheers, jp > -----Original Message----- > From: Roxanne Sandesara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:55 AM > To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com > Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Soft Rejections > > I used the qtp script qtp-sa-update, so yes, I believe that would > qualify as 'an automated sa-update configurator'. > > I'll have to wait until late tonight or some time this weekend to > attempt the rebuild and re-install. > > On May 8, 2008, at 11:48 AM, James Pratt wrote: > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Roxanne Sandesara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:24 AM > >> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com > >> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Soft Rejections > >> > >> So, having run "find / -type f | xargs grep -i "spamassassin- > toaster- > >> root", I find the following: > >> > >> /usr/bin/sa-compile:my $LOCAL_RULES_DIR = '/var/tmp/spamassassin- > >> toaster-root/etc/mail/spamassassin'; # substituted at 'make' time > >> /usr/bin/sa-learn:my $LOCAL_RULES_DIR = '/var/tmp/spamassassin- > >> toaster-root/etc/mail/spamassassin'; # substituted at 'make' time > >> /usr/bin/sa-update:my $LOCAL_RULES_DIR = '/var/tmp/spamassassin- > >> toaster-root/etc/mail/spamassassin'; # substituted at 'make' time > >> /usr/bin/sa-update: 'LOCAL_RULES_DIR' => '/var/tmp/ > >> spamassassin-toaster-root/etc/mail/spamassassin', > >> /usr/bin/sa-update: /var/tmp/spamassassin-toaster-root/etc/ > >> mail/spamassassin/sa-update-keys > >> Binary file /usr/bin/spamc matches > >> /usr/bin/spamd:my $LOCAL_RULES_DIR = '/var/tmp/spamassassin-toaster- > >> root/etc/mail/spamassassin'; # substituted at 'make' time > >> /usr/bin/spamassassin:my $LOCAL_RULES_DIR = '/var/tmp/spamassassin- > >> toaster-root/etc/mail/spamassassin'; # substituted at 'make' time > >> /usr/bin/spamassassin:=item /var/tmp/spamassassin-toaster-root/etc/ > >> mail/spamassassin > >> /usr/bin/spamassassin:=item /var/tmp/spamassassin-toaster-root/etc/ > >> mail/spamassassin > >> > >> So this clearly came into place when I added sa-update in place of > >> RulesDuJour this past weekend. I don't know if that's normal or not, > >> but I'm assuming not, since no one else recognized that path or > >> considered it valid except during build/compile/install. > >> > >> Chkrootkit found nothing. > >> > >> My guess would be, at this point, I open sa-compile, sa-learn, sao- > >> update, etc., in vi, find those instances of that directory and > >> redirect them to where they should be? Which would be /etc/mail/ > >> spamassassin ? > >> > > > > > > No , you will just end up pulling your hair out , especially if you > > have > > to try and guess paths .. rebuild the entire sa package using > rpmbuild > > ... > > > > The sa-learn, sa-compile, and sa-update files are created upon SA > > installation, so I can't see how just setting up sa-update would > > rebuild > > everything like that unless you used some type of automated sa-update > > configurator or something... (?) > > > > The spamassassin executable (perl script) should look something like: > > > > $ strings /usr/bin/spamassassin | grep LOCAL > > > > my $LOCAL_RULES_DIR = '/etc/mail/spamassassin'; # substituted at > > 'make' time > > my $LOCAL_STATE_DIR = '/var/lib/spamassassin'; # substituted at > > 'make' time > > LOCAL_RULES_DIR => $LOCAL_RULES_DIR, > > LOCAL_STATE_DIR => $LOCAL_STATE_DIR, > > > > (This is from a sendmail box, so the paths may be different. I > > can't get > > into my toaster server right now. :\ > > > > Cheers, > > jp > > > > > >> Roxanne > >> > >> On May 7, 2008, at 8:39 PM, James Pratt wrote: > >> > >>> With all due respect, I see *nothing* that indicates *any* sort of > >> dns > >>> issue here. The problem is that the Spamassassin installation is > >>> trying > >>> to create temp files in a very non-standard directory, as Eric said > >>> in a > >>> prior post. > >>> > >>> I would guess the build is just plain messed up - what does rpm -ql > >>> Spamassassin-toaster say? Inspect the rebuild output closely after. > >> Do > >>> not rebuild it as the root user. > >>> > >>> If I were you, I would re-rpmbuild, and also run chkrootkit, and/or > >>> rkhunter... many people (still!) compile things as root. That is a > >>> very > >>> bad thing, qmail or no. :( > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> jp > >>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Roxanne Sandesara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 8:24 PM > >>>> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com > >>>> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Soft Rejections > >>>> > >>>> No, nothing in the blacklists file. And Spamassassin's RBL checks > >> are > >>>> turned off in local.cf. > >>>> I'm running chrooted Bind, not a caching nameserver. > >>>> > >>>> And yes. I was su - into vpopmail's shell to run the spamassassin > > -- > >>>> lint -D tests. > >>>> > >>>> Roxanne > >>>> > >>>> On May 7, 2008, at 7:29 PM, Eric Shubert wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Roxanne Sandesara wrote: > >>>>>> DNS appears to be working. I have no idea if an RBL site is > down. > >>> At > >>>>>> this point I've deactivated spamdyke, which was the only thing > >>>>>> doing RBL > >>>>>> checks, so that shouldn't be an issue anymore. > >>>>> > >>>>> You have nothing in /var/qmail/control/blacklists? That would do > >> rbl > >>>>> checking. Spamassassin probably is as well, unless you are > running > >>>>> it with > >>>>> the -L (local checks only) option. > >>>>> > >>>>> Are you running a caching-nameserver on the toaster? That isn't > >>>>> absolutely > >>>>> required, but highly recommended. > >>>>> > >>>>>> I still have this nonsense SpamAssassin perl module error, and > no > >>>>>> way to > >>>>>> correct it. > >>>>> > >>>>> Are you running spamassassin commands with "sudo -u vpopmail -h"? > >>>>> You need to always run spamassassin as vpopmail user. Otherwise > it > >>>>> won't > >>>>> pick up the correct environment. > >>>>> > >>>>>> Roxanne > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On May 7, 2008, at 4:52 PM, Eric Shubert wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sounds a bit like a DNS issue to me. Is your DNS not working, > or > >>>>>>> perhaps an > >>>>>>> RBL site down? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Roxanne Sandesara wrote: > >>>>>>>> I've had spamdyke running for a week without any problems > until > >>>>>>>> today > >>>>>>>> (if indeed Spamdyke is the problem). However, thanks for the > >>>>>>>> advice. I > >>>>>>>> went back, found that discussion from last week, and have - at > >>>>>>>> least > >>>>>>>> temporarily - deactivated spamdyke. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> However, this has not corrected my problem. Messages are still > >>>>>>>> being > >>>>>>>> soft-rejected, even after turning off spamdyke and restarting > >>>>>>>> qmail. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I've got this strange permissions problem with what must be a > >>>>>>>> created > >>>>>>>> subdirectory in /tmp, which seems to be causing errors with > >>>>>>>> SpamAssassin. I have no idea if that could be causing the soft > >>>>>>>> rejects > >>>>>>>> or not, but I'd - obviously - like to correct it. but I can't > >>> find > >>>>>>>> anything on the Net matching the error message with the > >>> directory. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Still looking for help. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Roxanne > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On May 7, 2008, at 3:34 PM, im.fuzzy wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Roxanne Sandesara wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> Further searching. I found an instance of this in the > > archives > >>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>> suggested running a spamassassin --lint. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I did so, and got the following: > >>>>>>>>>> # spamassassin --lint > >>>>>>>>>> check: no loaded plugin implements 'check_main': cannot > scan! > >>> at > >>>>>>>>>> /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/ > >>>>>>>>>> PerMsgStatus.pm > >>>>>>>>>> line 164. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Help? 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