I think you are correct in the issue to decide Jake. I think it can safely be removed if everything it does is available elsewhere. Password lookup? I know domains can be done with webmin as well as CLI.
And I do not think vqadmin should be used for user creation/management. Qmailadmin is plenty good there. So multiple tools need to be used. What would someone expect if it is free? -----Original Message----- From: Jake Vickers [mailto:j...@qmailtoaster.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:05 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Creating e-mail users with VQAdmin vs. Qmailadmin Jean-Paul van de Plasse wrote: > Hey Jake, > > I do not think anyone on this list or using qmt does not apriciate the > work you did and are doing.. > > For me it really is not about the 30$, just never needed an interface, > guess I should check qcontrol maybe it will help me alot :) Anyways, > as said in an other mail I am just trying to help some who are using > vqadmin.. > Have been active in the past with patches and helping arround on this > list, been busy otherwise but figured I can still contribute some time > to qmt. > > I do think (as u suggest) a good mailserver needs a basic tool to > manage the users, so it would be good to fix vqadmin. > Or to write a replacement, with some basic features. > > Guess I should crawl back under the stone I was the past year.. seems > this all stirs up things .. > Sorry for that. I think the topic actually generated some good ideas and traffic. I'm trying to get the project back into giving the community what they ask for - I can't do this if you don't tell me what you want! I know lots of people appreciate the work that I and others do. That's not the issue I was ranting on. It costs actual money to run a project like this, and most people do not understand that. I'm not even counting time spent, just actual server costs. I'd started 2 or 3 projects in the past to write a replacement for Vqadmin with other people, but they always died on the vine. I found it frustrating. After a specific user went on a long-winded thread on how open source would never work because we wouldn't write a GUI that worked I decided to sit down and learn the skills I lacked to write the thing by myself. I honestly don't even use my own software to administer my system(s). I run servers for other companies around the world and I always found it easier to use the CLI myself. Mainly out of habit. The only feature that I can think of that Vqadmin provides that is not covered under Qmailadmin is the ability to create domains. I'll be starting a "video magazine" for QMT in the very near future with how-to videos, and one of the topics I'll eventually cover is how to add domains using the command line and why to not use Vqadmin. So I think the major topic we need to hash out is whether to remove the Vqadmin package from the auto-installers or not - correct me if I am wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
