I (shamefully, on occasion) use /home/vpopmail/bin/vuserinfo for
password lookups.
FWIW, looking up passwords (storing passwords in clear text, to be
precise) is considered to be a bad practice from a security standpoint.
A more secure way is to have the admin reset the password when
forgotten. I'm not sure why QMT is configured to store PWs in clear
text. Might want to consider changing that in a future release.
Helmut Fritz wrote:
I think you are correct in the issue to decide Jake. I think it can safely
be removed if everything it does is available elsewhere. Password lookup?
I know domains can be done with webmin as well as CLI.
And I do not think vqadmin should be used for user creation/management.
Qmailadmin is plenty good there.
So multiple tools need to be used. What would someone expect if it is free?
-----Original Message-----
From: Jake Vickers [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Creating e-mail users with VQAdmin vs.
Qmailadmin
Jean-Paul van de Plasse wrote:
Hey Jake,
I do not think anyone on this list or using qmt does not apriciate the
work you did and are doing..
For me it really is not about the 30$, just never needed an interface,
guess I should check qcontrol maybe it will help me alot :) Anyways,
as said in an other mail I am just trying to help some who are using
vqadmin..
Have been active in the past with patches and helping arround on this
list, been busy otherwise but figured I can still contribute some time
to qmt.
I do think (as u suggest) a good mailserver needs a basic tool to
manage the users, so it would be good to fix vqadmin.
Or to write a replacement, with some basic features.
Guess I should crawl back under the stone I was the past year.. seems
this all stirs up things ..
Sorry for that.
I think the topic actually generated some good ideas and traffic. I'm trying
to get the project back into giving the community what they ask for - I
can't do this if you don't tell me what you want!
I know lots of people appreciate the work that I and others do. That's not
the issue I was ranting on. It costs actual money to run a project like
this, and most people do not understand that. I'm not even counting time
spent, just actual server costs.
I'd started 2 or 3 projects in the past to write a replacement for Vqadmin
with other people, but they always died on the vine. I found it frustrating.
After a specific user went on a long-winded thread on how open source would
never work because we wouldn't write a GUI that worked I decided to sit down
and learn the skills I lacked to write the thing by myself.
I honestly don't even use my own software to administer my system(s). I run
servers for other companies around the world and I always found it easier to
use the CLI myself. Mainly out of habit.
The only feature that I can think of that Vqadmin provides that is not
covered under Qmailadmin is the ability to create domains.
I'll be starting a "video magazine" for QMT in the very near future with
how-to videos, and one of the topics I'll eventually cover is how to add
domains using the command line and why to not use Vqadmin.
So I think the major topic we need to hash out is whether to remove the
Vqadmin package from the auto-installers or not - correct me if I am wrong.
--
-Eric 'shubes'
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