>where the confusion comes in for, in his reply Jag wrote, "FWIW, I
wouldn't
>recommend surfing on a 68k Mac to my worst enemy- it's simply a waste of
>time."  <snip>

Having to use a 630 on my desk at work, I can tell you that the state of
browsers for Mac 68k is disgraceful.  There's no really good reason why
these browsers should be SO slow.  I have used a web browser on a 486
called Arachne running under DOS, and its twice to three times the speed
of anything on the a Macintosh which doesn't have a PPC chip.  And that
browser does support graphics, tables, etc. etc.

That being said, it is possible to browse the web on a Mac 68k machine (I
do it every day).  Here are some suggestions:

If you don't need secure connections, and are connecting to sites which
aren't graphic intensive use Netscape 2.02 with defrost.  Its faster than
any other browser.  But, like all Netscape browsers if you hit a modern
site with CSS or intense formatting, the browser chokes hard on the stuff
it doesn't understand.  Netscape 2.02 will just crash.  Under Netscape
4.08 (the last browser that works on a 68k Mac) it can mean many minute
waits.  It doens't crash the browser, but it will cause it to enter into
looping error modes that take forever to recorver from.  Meaning you're
sitting around with the machine seemingly locked up until it finally
grinds out the render (sometimes even the clock stops).

In a similar vein you can also use Cyberdog 2.0.  Its actually a nice
little browser, and doesn't seem to choke like Netscape.  Its funky
though in how it renders pages.

If you do want modern support, ICab is your only choice.  It supports
everything, and renders very beautifuly.  It also doesn't temporarily halt
at stuff it finds confusing (like Netscape).  That being said, don't
expect a speed demon.  I've seen starfish move faster than this browser
does on complex sites.

But say you don't need much in the way of graphics, and stuff, and just
want to get to the meat of the subject.  My favorite browsing tool of all
is a browser called Wannabe.  It doesn't do anything but display the text
of the web page, but it does make for a very pleasing experience to have
your pages display in a timely fashion.

Now there are also some tricks to speeding up these browsers.  The most
popular being to store your browser cache in a RAM disk.  It can
significantly speed up your experience.  It made ICab fairly tolerable
on my machine.  But, I have personally found that it tends to make for
more crashes.  Now, I might be doing it wrong or something, but I found that I
couldn't live with the instability that this particular trick gave.

A nice trick about ICab is that you can just about turn off every feature of
ICab individually.  I found that once you have almost everything turned
off (including graphics) that it made this web browser rather spry.  That
being said, I figured if I didn't want any graphics I might as well stick to
Wannabe anyway since Wannabe still wins in speed because it doesn't format the
text.

I hope this helps out.  I'm sure I'll get some disagreement on my
opinions, but they are what they are.  Having to use a 68040 based machine
every day, I just wanted to let you know that browsing and a significant
amount of work can be done.  That being said, don't expect it to be like
browsing on other machines.  The Macintosh browser scene seems peculiar in
its lack of quality support for 68k machines.

David

P.S. Another web browser that is pretty cool in Lynx.  Its text only like
Wannabe, but has more features and render modes.  There is a 68k version
that some French guy had up for a while, but I've lost track of where you
can get it now.  Its main problem is that its a port of a UNIX program.
Meaning its about as un-Mac-like as a Macintosh program can get.  Still,
it might make for a good compromise between the bare-bones Wannabe browser
and a more featured browser like ICab or Netscape.

P.P.S.  To locate some of this software try
http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/browsers.html  Mr. Gamba has just about
the neatest site for locating old browser type stuff.  Check out his main
pages too: http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/




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