I have raced a Capri RS3100 in the Birkett 6 hour at Silverstone and watched the Zackspeed Capris slaughter a sports car field at Donnington! Plus they have won so many races its not true. Amazing for the car you describe LOL. cheers Jon
----- Original Message ----- From: jim blair To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:23 AM Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Just put my Quantum on ebay capris are one of those cars,you should never own,just admire in photos or from a distance lol,grossly overweighted body,underpowered ohc engines,but were a status symbol,and big part of uk petrol heads fantasys lol,,i had 1 i confess,it was like driving a huge plywood wardrobe ,in a force 13 gale,with marshmallows for wheels ,and a steering wheel of candy floss,,,,,R.I.P,,(rust in peace) capris lol,,, > From: craig.eva...@btopenworld.com > To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Just put my Quantum on ebay > Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 19:26:59 +0100 > > Ah a fellow Capri appreciator. Oh no, now I've outed myself too :-) > > Craig > > With Q without C > > > -----Original Message----- > From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] > On Behalf Of Gary > Sent: 16 May 2011 18:51 > To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Just put my Quantum on ebay > > Nostalgia is a wonderful thing. (Capri's rule - oops did i say that out loud > :-o) > > Gary > Q and Capri less > > On 16/05/2011 01:03, cormorant wrote: > > Odd isn't it really? My previous car was a Morris Minor - prone to > > hideous amounts of concealed corrosion, no boot space, cruising speed > > 60mph, yes easy diy and cheap bits but only 40mpg - my diesel mk2 > > saloon does 60mpg and doesn't rust and massive boot and more comfort - > > 80mph all day - a decent Minor costs at least £1500 and even then you > > are not sure of the bodywork - a decent mk2 saloon half of that. Loads > > of Minors around and only 250ish Quantum saloons > > > > On May 15, 10:49 am, Derek Clews<derek_cl...@lineone.net> wrote: > >> I subscribe to the Eddie philosophy, if we can get the mechanical > >> parts supply sorted then we have an infinitely lifed (it doesn't > >> rust) DIY car. You will not be able to buy such a thing from now on, > >> DIY has gone. That will place the Q's with successful classics such > >> as MGB's and Moggy Thou's on the 'keepable' scale and very useable > >> still. Such a placement into, e.g. Practical Classics, listings > >> would start to increase the values. Its about recognition. See it - > want it! > >> > >> Our donor cars are now getting these listings and some kit cars are, > >> so maybe the club should be trying for the same with our Q's? > >> > >> Derek > >> > >> On 15 May 2011, at 07:14, Rolf wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> Agree with you. Just some loose thoughts: > >>> Had the same experience, tried to sell my saloon for a reasonable > >>> price, but no decent offer, but I kept it for time being. Now my 2+2 > >>> is on the road, I might sell it for whatever comes up, or leave it > >>> in the garage. For now, the cost of having two cars on the road are > >>> not sky high, but lack of space is a downside. > >>> At the same time, due to having two Quantums on the drrive, people > >>> stare and hurt necks, trying to see the cars when they drive by and > >>> recently a guy came up to me to talk about the car at 7.30 am! > >>> So we defenately need people's interest i the cars what helps and > >>> take the cars out as much as we can. (says daily driver) What can we > >>> do to increase publicity? > >>> On 14 mei, 22:10, Rob Dale<tlmsupers...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>>> Mr clarkson like him or not i reckon if top gear had a feature on a > >>>> kitcar company each week they could almost relaunch the UK small > >>>> builders car market as is his power with petrolheads. > >>>> One guy complained to me saying that the price of my car was to > >>>> high saying he had got one for £600 , i said well done . Im in no > >>>> rush to sell my car so i guess im in a strong selling position , > >>>> but looking around the market i really don't why kitcars should be > >>>> going down in value so much even good versions as it not like are > >>>> fords vauxhalls etc and they are thousands of the same one kicking > >>>> around. All i can think is that it must be down to the people > >>>> selling them. Also now theres another quantum owner up here i may > >>>> keep it and we could go for 2 car rallies ,3 if we let my brother > >>>> come along in his silva fury. > >>>> --- On Sat, 14/5/11, Dave the Subbie<dave_the_sub...@hotmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> From: Dave the Subbie<dave_the_sub...@hotmail.com> > >>>>> Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Just put my Quantum on ebay > >>>>> To: "Quantum Owners Group"<quantumowners@googlegroups.com> > >>>>> Date: Saturday, 14 May, 2011, 19:53 Anything is only worth what > >>>>> you can get for it, but that depends on how desparate you are to > >>>>> sell it. > >>>>> The truth is that a Mk2 without MoT is going to have to be pretty > >>>>> special to make more than £300 - 400, and a 2+2 £600 - 700. With > >>>>> MoT and tax, you could say the same cars would be £700 - 800 and > >>>>> £1000 -1500. I've bought three and sold one in the last year. > >>>>> (Don't ask..!) > >>>>> The above are governed, largely, by the alternatives on the wider > >>>>> market. Mx5s, MGFs, MR2s, XR2s, etc. etc. and the number of people > >>>>> with a non-runner kit car in the garage that they have lost > >>>>> interest in. Often that they bought second hand and didn't build. > >>>>> Now, the problem for most of us is that, having spent hours and > >>>>> money on our cars, their open market value is such that we won't > >>>>> get it back if we sell them. Which is why most of the best cars > >>>>> aren't for sale. I guess that's a fact of life. > >>>>> But it leaves the problem that, if your car gets written off, the > >>>>> only way to replace it is to buy a less special one and do lots of > >>>>> work to it to get it to the same standard. Which is why we need > >>>>> agreed value insurance. to cover the work involved. And > >>>>> particularly if it's someone else's fault - when you would be > >>>>> really annoyed to be offered the sort of money above for your > >>>>> immaculate 2+2 turbo 4wd nitrous injection with electric hood, > >>>>> kangaroo leather interior and diamond jewelled instruments, etc. > >>>>> (Don't tell me someone has > >>>>> one..!) > >>>>> The other problem is that, having built the ultimate car, it's not > >>>>> possible to sell it on to finance the next project. Or persuade > >>>>> other stakeholders in the household that you aren't just throwing > >>>>> good money after bad every month. > >>>>> So, ultimately, we all have an interest in improving the profile > >>>>> of these cars in the wider world. When rusty heaps of MGBs with > >>>>> agricultural engines and suspension are £2K+ and Mk1 Escorts start > >>>>> at £4K for a 1.1 4-door, there has to be scope for our chosen > >>>>> vehicles to be worth more, if only the wider market appreciated > >>>>> them. > >>>>> It's not > >>>>> just Quantums - look at early GTMs, Mini Marcos, Ginettas, Novas, > >>>>> etc. > >>>>> They all have the same problem. > >>>>> I don't know the answer, but, as a relative newby to the scene, it > >>>>> seems to me that there is scope for a gentle but effective > >>>>> publicity campaign to bring the attention of the wider enthusiast > >>>>> market to our area. There's both the Classic area, that must be > >>>>> getting bored with the same old cars by now, and seems to be > >>>>> getting more into modifications, which we do lots of, and there's > >>>>> the Top Gear market, that must be getting bored with looking at > >>>>> unaffordable, uninsurable supercars, whilst driving korean > >>>>> superminis on HP, with 4-figure insurance premiums. > >>>>> More interest = more buyers = better values for our cars? > >>>>> There, I've thrown a brick into the pond. What do you think? > >>>>> Dave. > >>>>> On May 13, 1:18 pm, Doug<doughoward...@googlemail.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> "...isn't anything only worth what someone else is > >>>>> prepared to pay for > >>>>>> it?" > >>>>>> Yes, but what governs what someone is prepared to pay > >>>>> for it? Is it > >>>>>> what buyers are prepared to pay, or what sellers are > >>>>> asking for it? I > >>>>>> guess it's more of a buyers market at the moment, but > >>>>> for something > >>>>>> like an Xtreme with a fairly good USP demand will > >>>>> probably not be too > >>>>>> dependent on whether the average asking price for a > >>>>> typical one is £5k > >>>>>> or £7k. If you want one you want one, and you'll > >>>>> pay what the going > >>>>>> rate is SO LONG AS YOU DON'T SEE VALUES FALLING, and > >>>>> owners and buyers > >>>>>> alike value the cars by looking at what prices they > >>>>> are for sale at. > >>>>>> Please argue the point if you think I'm wrong. The > >>>>> trouble is that by > >>>>>> chasing buyers by starting out asking less than > >>>>> everyone else for your > >>>>>> own car, not only does it force all the values down, > >>>>> it may also > >>>>>> (conversely) reduce demand as buyers see resale values > >>>>> are falling, > >>>>>> which in turn reduces values, and so on. It seems a > >>>>> vicious cycle and > >>>>>> we don't want to get into that. > >>>>>> Falling secondhand values also reduce demand for new > >>>>> builds, since no > >>>>>> one want's to spend a fortune on building a car only > >>>>> to find the > >>>>>> average resale value after a few years of minimal use > >>>>> is half that. > >>>>>> So obviously it's in the interest of Quantum and > >>>>> quantum owners to > >>>>>> keep values up, and hence talk of agreed value schemes > >>>>> which might > >>>>>> support values a bit. > >>>>>> At the end of the day all kit cars are unique, and if > >>>>> you happen to > >>>>>> have the particular features someone wants then that's > >>>>> more likely to > >>>>>> determine whether it's your car they buy or the other > >>>>> chap's, > >>>>>> providing the buyers can see why your car might be a > >>>>> bit more or less > >>>>>> than someone elses. Undercutting the competition > >>>>> ends up being bad > >>>>>> for all the current owners, but if you need to in > >>>>> order to sell in a > >>>>>> hurry then that's what you have to do. It's when a > >>>>> new one comes on > >>>>>> for sale at what seems an artificially low price that > >>>>> I baulk because > >>>>>> the seller didn't even try to find out if it would > >>>>> sell at a higher > >>>>>> price. I guess in the end values will find a level, > >>>>> I just hope it's > >>>>>> not too low. Mine's on PH now by the way. 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