On 09/12/2017 03:59 PM, Sven Semmler wrote:

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On 09/06/2017 11:44 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
Just use another distro to do it, don't go to all that effort.
Yeah, after 5+ hours of trying to get this to work, I'll have to cut my
loses. While it might theoretically be possible to diagnose and correct
whatever issues this computer has ... it's just not worth it.

So when the time comes to buy HW for Qubes 4.0 next year, I'll be sure
to pick an Intel processor and Intel integrated graphics. I don't need
better graphics and more than that I don't need the struggle.
I wouldn't buy a brand new x86 laptop due to not wanting to support further developments of anti-features such as ME/PSP (and they are generally cheap plastic crap anyways), so I recommend the following:

I would of course recommend an owner controlled Lenovo G505S (pre PSP AMD) which does work with with qubes out of the box (it is on the HCL) and also has open source init coreboot

But if you really are picky about this another good choice for you would be one of the intel ivy bridge thinkpads (and install the better previous generation t420 keyboard) such as the T430, W530, X230 etc. they work great with linux and they support open source init coreboot - you can also get a docking station or expanded battery for them - the only issue is ME (although one can me-clean to the degree that ivy/sandybridge allows more than the new intel stuff)
Thanks for offering to help though. I understand your position that
technically an AMD would be just as good. But out of the box it won't be
If you still want to troubleshoot I am interested in seeing what is going on.

I believe the reason it doesn't work is due to the fact that the graphics device is quite new in linux years and hardly any experts have one as it is pretty obscure. (btw fyi the AMD laptop you have right now has PSP, which is AMD's ME)

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