Ah you mean the time2 -0.4886745895 figure?

That's quite interesting how I got that, I averaged the 60 second offset sample 
over many days :)

I am a Crazy man..


Cheers Dave :)

-----Original Message-----
From: David J Taylor [mailto:david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid] 
Sent: Saturday, 11 February 2012 3:45 AM
To: questions@lists.ntp.org
Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] Come back PPS I miss you!

> So.. I am replying to my own posts too..
>
>
>
>
> Started ntpd in debug and seeing a lot of GPS_NMEA(1) PPS_RELATE_NONE
>
>
>>From the source:
> * The function returns PPS_RELATE_NONE (0) if no PPS edge correlation
> * can be fixed; PPS_RELATE_EDGE (1) when a PPS edge could be fixed, 
> but
> * the distance to the reference time stamp is too big (exceeds 
> +/-400ms)
> * and the ATOM driver PLL cannot be used to fix the phase; and
> * PPS_RELATE_PHASE (2) when the ATOM driver PLL code can be used.
>
> So does this mean basically I am screwed and can get on with life?
>
>
> Many thanks,
> Mark

Mark,

If it were me, I might reduce the complexity of your ntp.conf file, reduce it 
to the basics, and see how NTP worked.  Have two or three Internet servers you 
can trust, and just the minimum needed to get the serial GPS and PPS over DCD 
working.  Remove any keys or peer statements.  Were it my own Sure or Garmin 
GPS 18/x LVC, that configuration might be something
like:

______________________________________________
driftfile "C:\Tools\NTP\etc\ntp.drift"

# ref-clock drivers

# PPS - serialpps.sys
server 127.127.22.1 minpoll 4

# NMEA serial port, 16 = 9600 baud, 2 = $GPGGA server 127.127.20.1 minpoll 4  
mode 18  prefer

server  0.uk.pool.ntp.org
server  1.uk.pool.ntp.org
server  2.uk.pool.ntp.org

enable stats
statsdir "C:\Tools\NTP\etc\"
statistics loopstats
______________________________________________


IIRC, you can put noselect against the NMEA source, so the the seconds come 
from the Internet, and the PPS from the GPS device.  Your NMEA mode value may 
be different, of course.  One problem I have seen in the past is with NMEA 
devices which output more than one sentence, but at a baud rate which is too 
slow to accommodate all the sentences in the time available! 
I expect you've check that sort of thing, though.

# Sure GPS board:
server 127.127.20.1 minpoll 4  mode 18  prefer

# Garmin GPS 18 LVC receiver:
server 127.127.20.1 minpoll 4 prefer

# Garmin GPS 18x LVC at 19200bps
server 127.127.20.1 minpoll 4  mode 33While NTP is not running, you might look 
for a brief pulse on the DCD line using my very simple port monitor.
  http://www.satsignal.eu/software/net.htm#SerialPortLEDs

I hope there's something there which helps.

Cheers,
David 



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