Indeed we do. I was also thinking of say, Dorien? Of course one would hardly ever use it, but it would be there for a bit of a laugh. Will even make it myself when I get round to learning how to do so. Dunno why, but something about that scale fasinates me. Lol :)
On 8/9/11, Raymond Grote <[email protected]> wrote: > Funny you mention that, about a half hour ago I thought of doing that myself > lol! Musicians think alike I guess. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Onj" <[email protected]> > To: "QWS list" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:10 AM > Subject: Re: Re[2]: QWS List is QWS harder to use than most midi > applications? > > >> Hi. My suggestion for submission is send in a txt and say at the top of >> the document, disable wordwrap. >> Then paste each transform you want into the userxfrm.ini file and hope it >> works. >> That should work, as the list does support attachments, just not very big >> ones for obvious reasons. >> Cheers. >> >> From: Raymond Grote <[email protected]> >> on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:08 AM >> >>> The problem with melodic is, when going up the melody line has a normal >>> sixth and seventh found in a major scale, and when going down it is >>> lowered >>> to a natural minor scale. I could try making one to see how well it >>> works. >>> Another thing I was thinking of, how about a transform for inverting >>> melodies, so if you wanted harmony, you could just run the inversion >>> transform you needed and have an instant harmony track? I'd have a route >>> to >>> first and second inversions for major and minor. Anyone have suggestions >>> for >>> transforms? I really am into them now that we brought it up. >>> If I send in transforms, how should I send them? Should I attach a file >>> containing the data, and call it transforms.ini or something like that, >>> that >>> way I'm not overwriting anyone's user transform data? Or should I just >>> paste >>> it in a message and hope the line breaks don't interfere? >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Leonard de Ruijter" <[email protected]> >>> To: "QWS list" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 4:04 AM >>> Subject: Re[2]: QWS List is QWS harder to use than most midi >>> applications? >>> >>> >>>> Good idea there with the major to minor. I've also thought about >>>> creating those, since there are more then one major to minor So if >>>> you'd like to share them with us, that would be great. >>>> transforms possible, harmonic, melodic and such things. >>>> -- >>>> Regards, >>>> Leonard de Ruijter >>>> Playing in the dark >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Monday, August 8, 2011, 9:53:32 PM, you wrote: >>>> >>>>> I fully agree with you there. Once I loaded in a 15 minute file, and >>>>> was >>>>> looking for different things with the find function. It found something >>>>> at >>>>> the very end of the file instantly. I've never! had to wait for >>>>> anything >>>>> to >>>>> be processed or found in qWS. Even notepad with text files sometimes >>>>> makes >>>>> you wait, but maybe that's because text files can be bigger than midi >>>>> if >>>>> they're long enough. But the same can be said for midi too. I get the >>>>> impression there's no real size limit with QWS, because i've tried to >>>>> push >>>>> it several times, I've loaded 200 k midis and it didn't complain. The >>>>> only >>>>> time it did, was when I tried to load in a final fantasy midi and it >>>>> said >>>>> the midi wasn't a valid midi file or something, so I went into Synth >>>>> Font >>>>> and resaved it, and then it opened fine. The sound was unaltered too, >>>>> in >>>>> that there were no changed controllers that i could tell, nothing >>>>> really >>>>> missing. >>>>> By the way, I've made a new major to minor transform, it sounds more >>>>> natural, instead of changing the major sevenths to minor sevenths, it >>>>> keeps >>>>> them where they are. So it's more of a harmonic minor scale now but the >>>>> minor -sevenths in the original untransformed data are still preserved. >>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Onj" <[email protected]> >>>>> To: "QWS list" <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 3:51 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: QWS List is QWS harder to use than most midi applications? >>>> >>>> >>>>>> good morning. I cannot begin to tell you just how much of a proponent >>>>>> >>>>>> I >>>>>> am for QWS. I'm probably the second longest user of QWS in the world. >>>>>> I >>>>>> produced my entire album with it. Recently I went to Birmingham in >>>>>> the >>>>>> UK, not Alabama, and tought it to some students in Priestley Smith >>>>>> school >>>>>> for the blind. >>>>>> From the feedback I got at the end, it helped them quite a lot, and we >>>>>> produced some videocasts for the school intranet. If or when I get >>>>>> permission, I will share those on-list with you all, so you can >>>>>> hopefully >>>>>> benefit from that also. >>>>>> I was only there for one school-day but the students were receptive >>>>>> and >>>>>> did really seem to enjoy the demonstrations I put fourth. One of them >>>>>> was >>>>>> of course, the famous note-transform. I played the very well-known >>>>>> nursery rhyme old Mcdonald in F major, and used the major to minor to >>>>>> turn >>>>>> it into something rather different from the original. Picking >>>>>> something >>>>>> that people know quite well for demonstration purposes really hellped >>>>>> to >>>>>> get the point accross I feel. >>>>>> >>>>>> Although other DAWs have such features, how many of them are as easy >>>>>> to >>>>>> use or to find as simply visiting the tools menu? How many programs >>>>>> are >>>>>> forgoing menus entirely in favour of nasty ribbons or toolbars and >>>>>> saying >>>>>> bye bye to keyboard shortcuts? too many imho. >>>>>> >>>>>> the fact that I can run a basic set of synths on a Netbook and take >>>>>> QWS >>>>>> with me literally anywhere with access to a qwerty keyboard and write >>>>>> down >>>>>> ideas is a huge bonus to me. What I think is that a rather large >>>>>> section >>>>>> of modern computer users have very little pacients and if the product >>>>>> has >>>>>> no fancy graphics they dismiss it out of hand after 3 minutes of using >>>>>> it. >>>>>> Truely it is their loss, not ours. We know what we have. We utilise >>>>>> it >>>>>> to the best of our abilities and for myself, I'm very glad QWS came >>>>>> into >>>>>> being. >>>>>> For a free product, very few things come close in the midi world, of >>>>>> matching it. Note I said midi, not midi and audio, for we all know >>>>>> QWS >>>>>> does not support audio. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lastly, the size of the program and lack of CPU. Both are practically >>>>>> non-existant, even with 32-channel midi files. Responsiveness. Fast >>>>>> forward and rewinde in other daws and see what happens. >>>>>> >>>>>> That's really that for now, but just my thoughts on this Monday >>>>>> morning. >>>>>> Thank you for reading. >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Nicole Massey <[email protected]> >>>>>> on Sunday, August 07, 2011 10:52 PM >>>>>> >>>>>>> I haven't installed it yet, because I'm still waiting on some >>>>>>> assistance >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> get one of my USB keyboards out of the storage space my studio is in >>>>>>> at >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> moment, but I have read the manual end to end. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One thing that struck me was its similarity to older DOS based >>>>>>> sequencers, >>>>>>> in that the approach tends to give you a lot of tools to work with >>>>>>> without a >>>>>>> lot of focus on bells and whistles. There's a very large list of >>>>>>> things >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> will do to MIDI, but it leaves a lot of other stuff to other >>>>>>> programs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the computer programmer world, such a program is called a >>>>>>> "gerbil." >>>>>>> The >>>>>>> mental picture is a small gerbil busily running in its wheel, doing >>>>>>> what >>>>>>> it's supposed to. Such programs are nice to find, because they handle >>>>>>> things >>>>>>> rather well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One of the points I like about QWS is that everything is done using a >>>>>>> standard MIDI file. This takes a step or two out of porting the >>>>>>> sequence >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> a notation program if you need it, or to a DAW should that be your >>>>>>> intent. >>>>>>> I plan to use QWS for my MIDI work while my studio is deconstructed >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> construction of the building, as I still have work I want to get done >>>>>>> right >>>>>>> now, and dragging a seven foot tall rack full of modules and support >>>>>>> gear >>>>>>> into the house (with three steps to get inside, too) doesn't seem to >>>>>>> make >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> lot of sense to me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>>>>>> Of >>>>>>> Raymond Grote >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 4:18 PM >>>>>>> To: QWS list >>>>>>> Subject: Re: QWS List is QWS harder to use than most midi >>>>>>> applications? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That's a good point. What I was trying to figure out is why QWS is so >>>>>>> scary >>>>>>> to a sighted person. It's nothing graphical, it just lays itself out >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> front of you and you have to do what you need with it. And it doesn't >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> as many functions but that's because it's only for midi, not even >>>>>>> sheet >>>>>>> music which I could care less about it. I'm sure there are other >>>>>>> programs >>>>>>> for it when I need it that I could use in conjunction with QWS. As >>>>>>> I've >>>>>>> said >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the only reason I can even think of is that it doesn't have any quick >>>>>>> presets that you can just click or modify like some DAWs do. >>>>>>> In any case, even though QWS's usage is simple, mastering it is not. >>>>>>> I've >>>>>>> had many people try QWS and play with it and figure out how easy it >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> transpose or change to a different instrument, for example. But they >>>>>>> know >>>>>>> nothing about midi or theory. So it's even simple enough for them, >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> that's a good thing. If they're satisfied with it, then let them be. >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> really don't see how much simpler the interface could get. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Leonard de Ruijter" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: "QWS list" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 4:43 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: QWS List is QWS harder to use than most midi >>>>>>> applications? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey Raymond, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have to say that qws seemed quite complicated to me when i started >>>>>>> working with it. Another thing, which is a big credit to Andre, as >>>>>>> soon as i started listening to some of his tutorials, i found qws >>>>>>> getting more and more interesting for me, and understood more of >>>>>>> it. For example, i've played with note transform for several days >>>>>>> after i listened andre's tutorial concerning this. I use qws for >>>>>>> every >>>>>>> sequencing work i have to do now, and it works great. Lots of >>>>>>> functions qws has i miss in daws, for example the quick note editing >>>>>>> and midi assignments. So may be it's an idea to point >>>>>>> the daw-lovers to Andre's tutorials. One remark i also have to make >>>>>>> is that some of my sighted friends found qws quite scary as well, >>>>>>> but >>>>>>> that's more about how they found it look like, and as it is mainly >>>>>>> used by blind musicians, i don't care. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> Here's an interesting question. When I learned QWS, I didn't >>>>>>>> have anyone to help me out with it, just the setting up the keyboard >>>>>>>> part. And I had to learn most of the tools and functions myself. >>>>>>>> While I am a decent musician, I don't consider myself better than >>>>>>>> everyone. But QWS just came natural to me, a little more than I had >>>>>>>> expected. There are sighted people I know that know way more than I >>>>>>>> do, who use other programs which are not at all accessible. They >>>>>>>> have a whole workstation in front of them, and they can do way more >>>>>>>> than impport midi data and play it back, they can tweak pretty much >>>>>>>> every synth and effect peramitor there is. Whether they actually >>>>>>>> know the ins and outs of it I don't know, but it sure seems like >>>>>>>> they do. >>>>>>>> Now the question. I know people who are impressed with the work >>>>>>>> I do, contrary to my opinion, lol. but, they wanted to know how I >>>>>>>> did it, but they're sort of geared into something like I said above >>>>>>>> and I'm not sure exactly how to approach QWs. I initially said, >>>>>>>> "The manual's really good, you should understand it." I was under >>>>>>>> the impression that QWS's features were pretty familiar to any midi >>>>>>>> sequencer that knows what they're doing, and it would be >>>>>>>> ridiculously simple. But then an hour later they'd uninstall because >>>>>>>> it was either too complicated for them or too slow. I then realized >>>>>>>> that QWS and a DAW are pretty different, QWS is like Notepad, where >>>>>>>> it doesn't offer amazing functions with one clikc. You have to use >>>>>>>> the thirty or so tools that it provides you, in the way you want >>>>>>>> them, not go by some factory of presets already made for you and >>>>>>>> tweak it from there. >>>>>>>> So am I even partially right? Is QWS really complicated from >>>>>>>> that standpoint, or could it be lack of patience? We've all seen >>>>>>>> what Andre can do with it, I myself found it hard to believe that he >>>>>>>> used QWS at first since I'm nowhere near that level. >>>>>>>> Maybe some of you here have had similar experiences and can give >>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>> insight. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change list options, see >>>>>>> http://lists.andrelouis.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> for archived list posts, see >>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change list options, see >>>>>>> http://lists.andrelouis.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> for archived list posts, see >>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change list options, see >>>>>>> http://lists.andrelouis.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> for archived list posts, see >>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com >>>>>> >>>>>> for archived list posts, see >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com >>>> >>>>> for archived list posts, see >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com >>>> >>>> for archived list posts, see >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>> >>> To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com >>> >>> for archived list posts, see >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >> >> To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com >> >> for archived list posts, see >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com > > for archived list posts, see http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com for archived list posts, see http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
