I said scale? I ment mode. Gosh. Time for sleep methinks. On 8/9/11, James Malone <[email protected]> wrote: > Indeed we do. I was also thinking of say, Dorien? Of course one would > hardly ever use it, but it would be there for a bit of a laugh. Will > even make it myself when I get round to learning how to do so. Dunno > why, but something about that scale fasinates me. Lol :) > > On 8/9/11, Raymond Grote <[email protected]> wrote: >> Funny you mention that, about a half hour ago I thought of doing that >> myself >> lol! Musicians think alike I guess. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Onj" <[email protected]> >> To: "QWS list" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:10 AM >> Subject: Re: Re[2]: QWS List is QWS harder to use than most midi >> applications? >> >> >>> Hi. My suggestion for submission is send in a txt and say at the top of >>> the document, disable wordwrap. >>> Then paste each transform you want into the userxfrm.ini file and hope >>> it >>> works. >>> That should work, as the list does support attachments, just not very >>> big >>> ones for obvious reasons. >>> Cheers. >>> >>> From: Raymond Grote <[email protected]> >>> on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:08 AM >>> >>>> The problem with melodic is, when going up the melody line has a normal >>>> sixth and seventh found in a major scale, and when going down it is >>>> lowered >>>> to a natural minor scale. I could try making one to see how well it >>>> works. >>>> Another thing I was thinking of, how about a transform for inverting >>>> melodies, so if you wanted harmony, you could just run the inversion >>>> transform you needed and have an instant harmony track? I'd have a >>>> route >>>> to >>>> first and second inversions for major and minor. Anyone have >>>> suggestions >>>> for >>>> transforms? I really am into them now that we brought it up. >>>> If I send in transforms, how should I send them? Should I attach a file >>>> containing the data, and call it transforms.ini or something like that, >>>> that >>>> way I'm not overwriting anyone's user transform data? Or should I just >>>> paste >>>> it in a message and hope the line breaks don't interfere? >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Leonard de Ruijter" <[email protected]> >>>> To: "QWS list" <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 4:04 AM >>>> Subject: Re[2]: QWS List is QWS harder to use than most midi >>>> applications? >>>> >>>> >>>>> Good idea there with the major to minor. I've also thought about >>>>> creating those, since there are more then one major to minor So if >>>>> you'd like to share them with us, that would be great. >>>>> transforms possible, harmonic, melodic and such things. >>>>> -- >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Leonard de Ruijter >>>>> Playing in the dark >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Monday, August 8, 2011, 9:53:32 PM, you wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I fully agree with you there. Once I loaded in a 15 minute file, and >>>>>> was >>>>>> looking for different things with the find function. It found >>>>>> something >>>>>> at >>>>>> the very end of the file instantly. I've never! had to wait for >>>>>> anything >>>>>> to >>>>>> be processed or found in qWS. Even notepad with text files sometimes >>>>>> makes >>>>>> you wait, but maybe that's because text files can be bigger than midi >>>>>> if >>>>>> they're long enough. But the same can be said for midi too. I get the >>>>>> impression there's no real size limit with QWS, because i've tried to >>>>>> push >>>>>> it several times, I've loaded 200 k midis and it didn't complain. The >>>>>> only >>>>>> time it did, was when I tried to load in a final fantasy midi and it >>>>>> said >>>>>> the midi wasn't a valid midi file or something, so I went into Synth >>>>>> Font >>>>>> and resaved it, and then it opened fine. The sound was unaltered too, >>>>>> in >>>>>> that there were no changed controllers that i could tell, nothing >>>>>> really >>>>>> missing. >>>>>> By the way, I've made a new major to minor transform, it sounds more >>>>>> natural, instead of changing the major sevenths to minor sevenths, it >>>>>> keeps >>>>>> them where they are. So it's more of a harmonic minor scale now but >>>>>> the >>>>>> minor -sevenths in the original untransformed data are still >>>>>> preserved. >>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Onj" <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: "QWS list" <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 3:51 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: QWS List is QWS harder to use than most midi >>>>>> applications? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> good morning. I cannot begin to tell you just how much of a >>>>>>> proponent >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> am for QWS. I'm probably the second longest user of QWS in the >>>>>>> world. >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> produced my entire album with it. Recently I went to Birmingham in >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> UK, not Alabama, and tought it to some students in Priestley Smith >>>>>>> school >>>>>>> for the blind. >>>>>>> From the feedback I got at the end, it helped them quite a lot, and >>>>>>> we >>>>>>> produced some videocasts for the school intranet. If or when I get >>>>>>> permission, I will share those on-list with you all, so you can >>>>>>> hopefully >>>>>>> benefit from that also. >>>>>>> I was only there for one school-day but the students were receptive >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> did really seem to enjoy the demonstrations I put fourth. One of >>>>>>> them >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> of course, the famous note-transform. I played the very well-known >>>>>>> nursery rhyme old Mcdonald in F major, and used the major to minor >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> turn >>>>>>> it into something rather different from the original. Picking >>>>>>> something >>>>>>> that people know quite well for demonstration purposes really >>>>>>> hellped >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> get the point accross I feel. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Although other DAWs have such features, how many of them are as easy >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> use or to find as simply visiting the tools menu? How many programs >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> forgoing menus entirely in favour of nasty ribbons or toolbars and >>>>>>> saying >>>>>>> bye bye to keyboard shortcuts? too many imho. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the fact that I can run a basic set of synths on a Netbook and take >>>>>>> QWS >>>>>>> with me literally anywhere with access to a qwerty keyboard and >>>>>>> write >>>>>>> down >>>>>>> ideas is a huge bonus to me. What I think is that a rather large >>>>>>> section >>>>>>> of modern computer users have very little pacients and if the >>>>>>> product >>>>>>> has >>>>>>> no fancy graphics they dismiss it out of hand after 3 minutes of >>>>>>> using >>>>>>> it. >>>>>>> Truely it is their loss, not ours. We know what we have. We >>>>>>> utilise >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> to the best of our abilities and for myself, I'm very glad QWS came >>>>>>> into >>>>>>> being. >>>>>>> For a free product, very few things come close in the midi world, of >>>>>>> matching it. Note I said midi, not midi and audio, for we all know >>>>>>> QWS >>>>>>> does not support audio. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lastly, the size of the program and lack of CPU. Both are >>>>>>> practically >>>>>>> non-existant, even with 32-channel midi files. Responsiveness. Fast >>>>>>> forward and rewinde in other daws and see what happens. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That's really that for now, but just my thoughts on this Monday >>>>>>> morning. >>>>>>> Thank you for reading. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Nicole Massey <[email protected]> >>>>>>> on Sunday, August 07, 2011 10:52 PM >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I haven't installed it yet, because I'm still waiting on some >>>>>>>> assistance >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> get one of my USB keyboards out of the storage space my studio is >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> moment, but I have read the manual end to end. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One thing that struck me was its similarity to older DOS based >>>>>>>> sequencers, >>>>>>>> in that the approach tends to give you a lot of tools to work with >>>>>>>> without a >>>>>>>> lot of focus on bells and whistles. There's a very large list of >>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> will do to MIDI, but it leaves a lot of other stuff to other >>>>>>>> programs. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In the computer programmer world, such a program is called a >>>>>>>> "gerbil." >>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>> mental picture is a small gerbil busily running in its wheel, doing >>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>> it's supposed to. Such programs are nice to find, because they >>>>>>>> handle >>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>> rather well. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One of the points I like about QWS is that everything is done using >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> standard MIDI file. This takes a step or two out of porting the >>>>>>>> sequence >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> a notation program if you need it, or to a DAW should that be your >>>>>>>> intent. >>>>>>>> I plan to use QWS for my MIDI work while my studio is deconstructed >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> construction of the building, as I still have work I want to get >>>>>>>> done >>>>>>>> right >>>>>>>> now, and dragging a seven foot tall rack full of modules and >>>>>>>> support >>>>>>>> gear >>>>>>>> into the house (with three steps to get inside, too) doesn't seem >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> make >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> lot of sense to me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>>>>>> Behalf >>>>>>>> Of >>>>>>>> Raymond Grote >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 4:18 PM >>>>>>>> To: QWS list >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: QWS List is QWS harder to use than most midi >>>>>>>> applications? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That's a good point. What I was trying to figure out is why QWS is >>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>> scary >>>>>>>> to a sighted person. It's nothing graphical, it just lays itself >>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> front of you and you have to do what you need with it. And it >>>>>>>> doesn't >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> as many functions but that's because it's only for midi, not even >>>>>>>> sheet >>>>>>>> music which I could care less about it. I'm sure there are other >>>>>>>> programs >>>>>>>> for it when I need it that I could use in conjunction with QWS. As >>>>>>>> I've >>>>>>>> said >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the only reason I can even think of is that it doesn't have any >>>>>>>> quick >>>>>>>> presets that you can just click or modify like some DAWs do. >>>>>>>> In any case, even though QWS's usage is simple, mastering it is >>>>>>>> not. >>>>>>>> I've >>>>>>>> had many people try QWS and play with it and figure out how easy it >>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> transpose or change to a different instrument, for example. But >>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>> know >>>>>>>> nothing about midi or theory. So it's even simple enough for them, >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> that's a good thing. If they're satisfied with it, then let them >>>>>>>> be. >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> really don't see how much simpler the interface could get. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Leonard de Ruijter" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> To: "QWS list" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 4:43 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: QWS List is QWS harder to use than most midi >>>>>>>> applications? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey Raymond, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have to say that qws seemed quite complicated to me when i >>>>>>>> started >>>>>>>> working with it. Another thing, which is a big credit to Andre, as >>>>>>>> soon as i started listening to some of his tutorials, i found qws >>>>>>>> getting more and more interesting for me, and understood more of >>>>>>>> it. For example, i've played with note transform for several days >>>>>>>> after i listened andre's tutorial concerning this. I use qws for >>>>>>>> every >>>>>>>> sequencing work i have to do now, and it works great. Lots of >>>>>>>> functions qws has i miss in daws, for example the quick note >>>>>>>> editing >>>>>>>> and midi assignments. So may be it's an idea to point >>>>>>>> the daw-lovers to Andre's tutorials. One remark i also have to >>>>>>>> make >>>>>>>> is that some of my sighted friends found qws quite scary as well, >>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>> that's more about how they found it look like, and as it is mainly >>>>>>>> used by blind musicians, i don't care. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>> Here's an interesting question. When I learned QWS, I didn't >>>>>>>>> have anyone to help me out with it, just the setting up the >>>>>>>>> keyboard >>>>>>>>> part. And I had to learn most of the tools and functions myself. >>>>>>>>> While I am a decent musician, I don't consider myself better than >>>>>>>>> everyone. But QWS just came natural to me, a little more than I >>>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>>> expected. There are sighted people I know that know way more than >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> do, who use other programs which are not at all accessible. They >>>>>>>>> have a whole workstation in front of them, and they can do way >>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>> than impport midi data and play it back, they can tweak pretty >>>>>>>>> much >>>>>>>>> every synth and effect peramitor there is. Whether they actually >>>>>>>>> know the ins and outs of it I don't know, but it sure seems like >>>>>>>>> they do. >>>>>>>>> Now the question. I know people who are impressed with the work >>>>>>>>> I do, contrary to my opinion, lol. but, they wanted to know how I >>>>>>>>> did it, but they're sort of geared into something like I said >>>>>>>>> above >>>>>>>>> and I'm not sure exactly how to approach QWs. I initially said, >>>>>>>>> "The manual's really good, you should understand it." I was under >>>>>>>>> the impression that QWS's features were pretty familiar to any >>>>>>>>> midi >>>>>>>>> sequencer that knows what they're doing, and it would be >>>>>>>>> ridiculously simple. But then an hour later they'd uninstall >>>>>>>>> because >>>>>>>>> it was either too complicated for them or too slow. I then >>>>>>>>> realized >>>>>>>>> that QWS and a DAW are pretty different, QWS is like Notepad, >>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>> it doesn't offer amazing functions with one clikc. You have to >>>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>>> the thirty or so tools that it provides you, in the way you want >>>>>>>>> them, not go by some factory of presets already made for you and >>>>>>>>> tweak it from there. >>>>>>>>> So am I even partially right? Is QWS really complicated from >>>>>>>>> that standpoint, or could it be lack of patience? We've all seen >>>>>>>>> what Andre can do with it, I myself found it hard to believe that >>>>>>>>> he >>>>>>>>> used QWS at first since I'm nowhere near that level. >>>>>>>>> Maybe some of you here have had similar experiences and can give >>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>> insight. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change list options, see >>>>>>>> http://lists.andrelouis.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> for archived list posts, see >>>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change list options, see >>>>>>>> http://lists.andrelouis.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> for archived list posts, see >>>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change list options, see >>>>>>>> http://lists.andrelouis.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> for archived list posts, see >>>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change list options, see >>>>>>> http://lists.andrelouis.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> for archived list posts, see >>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe or change list options, see >>>>>> http://lists.andrelouis.com >>>>> >>>>>> for archived list posts, see >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com >>>>> >>>>> for archived list posts, see >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com >>>> >>>> for archived list posts, see >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com >>> >>> for archived list posts, see >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >> To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com >> >> for archived list posts, see >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> > To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com
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