Obviously Will was not suggesting that compilers reject
programs that cannot be proven to terminate.

On 2/24/07, Thomas Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I think the standard has failed to be a lisp, and failed in the
Scheme tradition, if it does not permit viable non-standard
interpretations of programs which are divergent under the
standard (see my earlier post "Mathematical Foundations").

For example, suppose that a procedure which is not provably
terminating in a portable interpretation has the property that,
nevertheless, we can say that *if* it terminates, the type of
the return value is CHAR?.   Further, suppose the procedure
is invoked in a context that is only strict in the type of the
return value.

Must R6RS prohibit an implementation from completing this
computation?

Before answering, please read "On Games and Numbers".

Regards,
-t



Arthur A. Gleckler wrote:
> On Feb 24, 2007, at 4:54 PM, William D Clinger wrote:
>
>> Matthias Felleisen wrote:
>>>   2. Naturally I don't reject type systems per se but I think that a
>>> serious
>>>      language definition shouldn't introduce such systems without
>>> specifying
>>>      them. Otherwise a language/implementation will appear whimsical to
>>>      programmers.
>>
>> The current draft already mandates hundreds of runtime
>> exceptions whose whimsical purpose is to make programs
>> that violate the requirements of the R6RS less likely
>> to run to completion.  Why should that kind of whimsy
>> be limited to run time?
>
> My only concern is that an error in one part of my program should not
> prevent me from running another part of the program.  The thing I most
> dislike about most statically typed language implementations is that
> they prevent me from testing a program that isn't yet completely
> type-correct when I'm not even planning to invoke the broken part of
> the program.  I suppose that this suggestion only allows, but doesn't
> require, compiler writers to signal errors it can detect at compile
> time.  Still, I'd rather not encourage this behavior if it makes it
> impossible to run programs that are not yet completely correct.
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