With great respect to your idea: I think that people looking for mentors should surround themselves with great people then look to approaching certain individuals based on particular skills.
I'm not really sure how a program to organise this would work. Although I believe that anyone who is serious about their career would be stupid to pass up the opportunity for dedicated time from a mentor. Sounds awesome Gabe, I'd still love to see something like this come to tuition. On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Julio Cesar Ody <julio...@gmail.com>wrote: > Yeah by all means, trying is the way to go, and props for the initiative. > > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Gabe Hollombe <g...@avantbard.com> > wrote: > >> Would this really work with people who aren't already buddies, without > >> any sort of tangible incentive? > > > > I've got no idea if this will work. I think the point here is to try and > see > > if it works or not. > > > >> > >> I just can't see *qualified* people who perhaps already maintain > projects > >> and > >> respond to emailing lists and bug trackers finding the time to meet up > >> with someone they don't know, or barely know. > > > > > > Maybe you're right. But, I saw a lot of hands go up when I asked for > > interest at RC7. So, maybe folks won't be able to find the time, but at > > least of lot of people _think_ they'd be interested in participating in a > > mentoring program. Often, we'll find time for anything we're interested > in. > > > >> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Gabe Hollombe <g...@avantbard.com> > >> wrote: > >> > At Railscamp 7, I stood up during our Sunday night town hall meeting > and > >> > shared about how I want to big up myself and find a mentor to help me > >> > grow > >> > as a software craftsman. I asked the room for a show of hands for > >> > people > >> > who would be willing to mentor others and/or would want to have a > mentor > >> > for > >> > themselves. There was a fair amount of hand raising, so I volunteered > >> > to > >> > put some effort into trying to establish some sort of mentoring system > >> > for > >> > our community. > >> > > >> > I'd like to start by asking you: > >> > > >> > What might want out of a mentor? > >> > What do you think might be good for helping to foster mentor/mentee > >> > relationships? > >> > What ideas do you have to help make this mentoring thing a reality? > >> > > >> > Let's keep this very open-ended right now and just share anything we > >> > think > >> > might be relevant. I'll take all the feedback and try to digest it > into > >> > an > >> > alpha version of a mentoring program. > >> > > >> > Here are some of my (sometimes rambled) thoughts to start things off: > >> > I think mentors should: > >> > > >> > Meet with a mentee on some sort of regular schedule that works for > both > >> > parties (in-person or virtually, but I really think that face to face > is > >> > a > >> > richer experience) > >> > Discuss what their mentee is working on and provide code reviews > >> > Share what they're working on with their mentee, to expand their > >> > horizons > >> > Make themselves available for help outside of their normal meeting > >> > schedule > >> > > >> > I don't think mentors should need to feel like an expert or an > advanced > >> > hacker of any kind; they just need to feel like they can help their > >> > mentees > >> > somehow. And, mentors should remember that they'll grow and learn, > >> > perhaps > >> > just as much, as part of the mentoring relationship. When you're > >> > teaching > >> > someone something, you often learn a lot, too. > >> > I think the mentoring relationship should be viewed much more as a > >> > social, > >> > friendly commitment to see how you'll work as a pair. Either a mentor > >> > or a > >> > mentee should be completely comfortable swapping out and finding a > >> > different > >> > mentor/mentee if things just aren't working or, or, even if they are, > >> > just > >> > to change things up. I think that what I'm envisioning is something > >> > that > >> > combines the comfortableness of a friendly partnering with the > >> > reassurance > >> > that you've got at least one person who will be willing to field > >> > questions > >> > for you and help you grow. > >> > A mentor doesn't need to have all the answers. Indeed, they rarely, > if > >> > ever, will. But, a mentor should try to help their mentee grow and be > >> > willing to learn alongside them in the process. > >> > > >> > From the practical, 'how do we organize this?' angle, we'll obviously > >> > need > >> > some way for willing mentors to list themselves as available, and for > >> > mentees to find them. Something like www.railsmentors.org/ makes > sense, > >> > though I think we should encourage folks to pair up within their own > >> > city, > >> > when possible, to make face-to-face meetups easier. And, of course, I > >> > don't > >> > want to restrict us to rails only mentoring. We're clearly a diverse > >> > group > >> > of web hackers, and we should keep the mentoring open to anything web > >> > hackery related. > >> > Ok, thanks for reading this to the end. 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