I thought someone might like that. I'd hoped anyway. On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Gus Gollings <gus.golli...@gmail.com>wrote:
> "come to tuition" > > Oh, that's a great pun. :-) > > Regards, > > Gus > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Ben Schwarz <ben.schw...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > With great respect to your idea: > > I think that people looking for mentors should surround themselves with > > great people > > then look to approaching certain individuals based on particular skills. > > I'm not really sure how a program to organise this would work. > > Although I believe that anyone who is serious about their career would be > > stupid to pass up the opportunity for dedicated time from a mentor. > > Sounds awesome Gabe, I'd still love to see something like this come to > > tuition. > > > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Julio Cesar Ody <julio...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> Yeah by all means, trying is the way to go, and props for the > initiative. > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Gabe Hollombe <g...@avantbard.com> > >> wrote: > >> >> Would this really work with people who aren't already buddies, > without > >> >> any sort of tangible incentive? > >> > > >> > I've got no idea if this will work. I think the point here is to try > and > >> > see > >> > if it works or not. > >> > > >> >> > >> >> I just can't see *qualified* people who perhaps already maintain > >> >> projects > >> >> and > >> >> respond to emailing lists and bug trackers finding the time to meet > up > >> >> with someone they don't know, or barely know. > >> > > >> > > >> > Maybe you're right. But, I saw a lot of hands go up when I asked for > >> > interest at RC7. So, maybe folks won't be able to find the time, but > at > >> > least of lot of people _think_ they'd be interested in participating > in > >> > a > >> > mentoring program. Often, we'll find time for anything we're > interested > >> > in. > >> > > >> >> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Gabe Hollombe <g...@avantbard.com> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > At Railscamp 7, I stood up during our Sunday night town hall > meeting > >> >> > and > >> >> > shared about how I want to big up myself and find a mentor to help > me > >> >> > grow > >> >> > as a software craftsman. I asked the room for a show of hands for > >> >> > people > >> >> > who would be willing to mentor others and/or would want to have a > >> >> > mentor > >> >> > for > >> >> > themselves. There was a fair amount of hand raising, so I > >> >> > volunteered > >> >> > to > >> >> > put some effort into trying to establish some sort of mentoring > >> >> > system > >> >> > for > >> >> > our community. > >> >> > > >> >> > I'd like to start by asking you: > >> >> > > >> >> > What might want out of a mentor? > >> >> > What do you think might be good for helping to foster mentor/mentee > >> >> > relationships? > >> >> > What ideas do you have to help make this mentoring thing a reality? > >> >> > > >> >> > Let's keep this very open-ended right now and just share anything > we > >> >> > think > >> >> > might be relevant. I'll take all the feedback and try to digest it > >> >> > into > >> >> > an > >> >> > alpha version of a mentoring program. > >> >> > > >> >> > Here are some of my (sometimes rambled) thoughts to start things > off: > >> >> > I think mentors should: > >> >> > > >> >> > Meet with a mentee on some sort of regular schedule that works for > >> >> > both > >> >> > parties (in-person or virtually, but I really think that face to > face > >> >> > is > >> >> > a > >> >> > richer experience) > >> >> > Discuss what their mentee is working on and provide code reviews > >> >> > Share what they're working on with their mentee, to expand their > >> >> > horizons > >> >> > Make themselves available for help outside of their normal meeting > >> >> > schedule > >> >> > > >> >> > I don't think mentors should need to feel like an expert or an > >> >> > advanced > >> >> > hacker of any kind; they just need to feel like they can help their > >> >> > mentees > >> >> > somehow. And, mentors should remember that they'll grow and learn, > >> >> > perhaps > >> >> > just as much, as part of the mentoring relationship. When you're > >> >> > teaching > >> >> > someone something, you often learn a lot, too. > >> >> > I think the mentoring relationship should be viewed much more as a > >> >> > social, > >> >> > friendly commitment to see how you'll work as a pair. Either a > >> >> > mentor > >> >> > or a > >> >> > mentee should be completely comfortable swapping out and finding a > >> >> > different > >> >> > mentor/mentee if things just aren't working or, or, even if they > are, > >> >> > just > >> >> > to change things up. I think that what I'm envisioning is > something > >> >> > that > >> >> > combines the comfortableness of a friendly partnering with the > >> >> > reassurance > >> >> > that you've got at least one person who will be willing to field > >> >> > questions > >> >> > for you and help you grow. > >> >> > A mentor doesn't need to have all the answers. Indeed, they > rarely, > >> >> > if > >> >> > ever, will. But, a mentor should try to help their mentee grow and > >> >> > be > >> >> > willing to learn alongside them in the process. > >> >> > > >> >> > From the practical, 'how do we organize this?' angle, we'll > obviously > >> >> > need > >> >> > some way for willing mentors to list themselves as available, and > for > >> >> > mentees to find them. Something like www.railsmentors.org/ makes > >> >> > sense, > >> >> > though I think we should encourage folks to pair up within their > own > >> >> > city, > >> >> > when possible, to make face-to-face meetups easier. And, of > course, > >> >> > I > >> >> > don't > >> >> > want to restrict us to rails only mentoring. We're clearly a > diverse > >> >> > group > >> >> > of web hackers, and we should keep the mentoring open to anything > web > >> >> > hackery related. > >> >> > Ok, thanks for reading this to the end. Now it's your turn to kick > in > >> >> > some > >> >> > thoughts. > >> >> > -g > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> >> > Groups > >> >> > "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. > >> >> > To post to this group, send email to > rails-ocea...@googlegroups.com. > >> >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> >> > rails-oceania+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rails-oceania%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > >> >> > For more options, visit this group at > >> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> http://crazyhollywood.org > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> >> Groups > >> >> "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. > >> >> To post to this group, send email to rails-ocea...@googlegroups.com. > >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> >> rails-oceania+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rails-oceania%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > >> >> For more options, visit this group at > >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. > >> >> > >> > > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> > Groups > >> > "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. > >> > To post to this group, send email to rails-ocea...@googlegroups.com. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> > rails-oceania+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rails-oceania%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > >> > For more options, visit this group at > >> > http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> http://crazyhollywood.org > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to rails-ocea...@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> rails-oceania+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rails-oceania%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. > >> > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rails-ocea...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rails-oceania+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rails-oceania%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. > To post to this group, send email to rails-ocea...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rails-oceania+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rails-oceania%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. 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