On 29 November 2011 07:16, Gavin McDonald <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Robert Burrell Donkin [mailto:rdon...@apache.org] >> Sent: Sunday, 20 November 2011 5:44 AM >> To: rat-dev@incubator.apache.org >> Subject: Re: Top Level Project Name >> >> On 11/19/11 19:07, Gavin McDonald wrote: >> >> <snip> >> >> > I am -0 on changing the name. RAT was simple name and meant what the >> > product does. >> >> Those qualities make it more difficult from a trademark perspective... >> >> > (And by now, folks know what it means to produce a 'Rat Report' , >> > asking folks to produce a Creadur Report rolls off the tongue less.) >> >> "Apache Rat" is fine as a product name. There's no need to change that nor >> stop talking about rat reports. >> >> "Creadur" would just be the top level project name, with tentacles, > whisker, >> rat and so on as different products. May end up releasing some "creadur" >> stuff to keep Maven happy. >> >> > If words like 'Apple' and 'Windows' can be tm'd I don't see why Rat >> > should be any different. >> >> Trademark law is quite unlike copyright. Apple and Microsoft have big >> marketing budgets to build and defend their trademarks. Apache doesn't. >> >> > But I don't want to hold up the graduation so above are just thoughts >> > I won't do anything about. >> >> Thanks > > Ok so to not hold up a graduation means actually doing something about > graduating. > > I've poured through docs and I think we are done at this point, the IPMC can > point > out anything else rather than us look for faults. But now we have this thing > called a > project rename to deal with. So: > > 1. Create a [VOTE] thread someone please to rename the project to creadur. > 2. Vote to graduate. > 3. Take that vote to the IPMC. > 4. Elect a chair. > 5. Do the move. > > I am not going to do 1. so if someone can kindly get that done. > I will happily create the vote for 2. > I will happily do 3. > I will happily call a vote for who becomes chair, though I'd rather RBL or
s/RBL/RBD/ ? > Stefan just get it. > (It's going to be one of them) > I will happily as part of RAT and as part of INFRA perform much of the move > to TLP > > There are zero excuses now, let's get out of here :) > > Gav... > >> >> Robert >