On 29 November 2011 07:16, Gavin McDonald <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robert Burrell Donkin [mailto:rdon...@apache.org]
>> Sent: Sunday, 20 November 2011 5:44 AM
>> To: rat-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Top Level Project Name
>>
>> On 11/19/11 19:07, Gavin McDonald wrote:
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>> <snip>
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>> > I am -0 on changing the name. RAT was simple name and meant what the
>> > product does.
>>
>> Those qualities make it more difficult from a trademark perspective...
>>
>> > (And by now, folks know what it means to produce a 'Rat Report' ,
>> > asking folks to produce a Creadur Report rolls off the tongue less.)
>>
>> "Apache Rat" is fine as a product name. There's no need to change that nor
>> stop talking about rat reports.
>>
>> "Creadur" would just be the top level project name, with tentacles,
> whisker,
>> rat and so on as different products. May end up releasing some "creadur"
>> stuff to keep Maven happy.
>>
>> > If words like 'Apple' and 'Windows' can be tm'd I don't see why Rat
>> > should be any different.
>>
>> Trademark law is quite unlike copyright. Apple and Microsoft have big
>> marketing budgets to build and defend their trademarks. Apache doesn't.
>>
>> > But I don't want to hold up the graduation so above are just thoughts
>> > I won't do anything about.
>>
>> Thanks
>
> Ok so to not hold up a graduation means actually doing something about
> graduating.
>
> I've poured through docs and I think we are done at this point, the IPMC can
> point
> out anything else rather than us look for faults. But now we have this thing
> called a
> project rename to deal with. So:
>
> 1. Create a [VOTE] thread someone please to rename the project  to creadur.
> 2. Vote to graduate.
> 3. Take that vote to the IPMC.
> 4. Elect a chair.
> 5. Do the move.
>
> I am not going to do 1. so if someone can kindly get that done.
> I will happily create the vote for 2.
> I will happily do 3.
> I will happily call a vote for who becomes chair, though I'd rather RBL or

s/RBL/RBD/ ?

> Stefan just get it.
>  (It's going to be one of them)
> I will happily as part of RAT and as part of INFRA perform much of the move
> to TLP
>
> There are zero excuses now, let's get out of here :)
>
> Gav...
>
>>
>> Robert
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