On 14 Dec 2003 at 20:14, John Andersen wrote: > On Sunday 14 December 2003 13:39, Matt Kettler wrote: > > Neils mentioned that he has a low hit rate when mail is delivered, but when > > he re-scans the SAME MESSAGES a few days later, the hit rate is three times > > higher. > > No, Neils said he had a 60% hit rate after RESCANNING mail he > submitted already. You would expect that, especially if Neils had > "good carma" at Razor. But the point was that Razor, left to its own > devices has a 15% hit rate.
John's correct. The huge increase in hitrate is observed *after* I report; I generally do a razor-check immediately prior to reporting for comparison purposes. Generally speaking, there *is* a slight increase in razor-detected spam between initial reception and my pre- reporting razor-check, but it's nothing compared to what I see after I've reported. Even after a week, during which I might have expected *lots* of people to report, the pre- and post-reporting checks are dramatically different. It just seems odd to me that my individual reporting could make such a difference! I guess I don't really understand the algorithm by which an individual message's spam-threshold-according-to-razor is determined. I should probably consult some documentation and see if I can get a better handle on it. :-) One possibility that occurred to me is that a greater proportion of the spam being sent out nowadays is randomized for each recipient. I don't mean the content the spammer wants you to read--I'm talking about all the fake HTML tags and bayes poison sprinkled throughout many messages. If the messages *are* unique (or close to it) then presumably my reporting a message body which is unique to me (or say, ten recipients) won't actually have a big impact for other razor users. ---- Nels Lindquist <*> Information Systems Manager Morningstar Air Express Inc. ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials. Become an expert in LINUX or just sharpen your skills. Sign up for IBM's Free Linux Tutorials. Learn everything from the bash shell to sys admin. Click now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1278&alloc_id=3371&op=click _______________________________________________ Razor-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users