I have two servers here. One of them is still running the NT4 BackOffice setup I got four years ago. There wasn't any date self destruct built into it. When I got one of the upgrades last fall, it had 2000 Advanced server in it and the CD was damaged, so I called the 800 number for Microsoft compliance for a replacement disk. The replacement disk that was shipped was a full product disk. So AFAIK, every product in the box is full product, unless stated otherwise in the nomenclature at the action pack website. As I said, for me it has been a good deal. Also, part of the Action Pack deal, you will get regular mailings about any Technical Briefings in your area (I am going to one on Thursday on server 2003) that are without cost and usually for attending (besides coffee, doughnuts, etc) you will receive some NFR software of decent value..
----- Original Message ----- From: "Lawrence Lustig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RBASE-L Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:17 AM Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: OT: Microsoft Action Pack > > It is licensed material, valid under the terms of > > the license and you > > should know better about the phone home crap. Any > > of the software will > > operate without an internet connection (activation > > can be done in person > > over the phone by you), > > I don't have a problem with their licensing terms, > which seem pretty generous to me, as long as they > don't stop the annual resubscription process. It is a > lot of software for the money. I'm glad you posted > the announcement, and I'm considering subscribing > myself. > > As for the "phone home" issue, the new operating > system does have in place the ability for Microsoft to > check your installed software through the update > process -- and some of their new licenses require you > to run updates. In those cases where you are buying a > time license to run the software (such as this > program) I think it's reasonable to expect that > Microsoft will use the technologies they have put in > place to enforce the license expiration terms. Again, > I don't see anything wrong with this as long as they > are upfront about it -- and the package license for > this subscription is pretty clear that you only have > rights to the software for subscription term. > > I was only trying to answer Javier's question about > the license terms. As long as one understands that, > unlike standard software purchases, the license > expires and, if you are relying on the software you > will have to either buy outright licenses or continue > paying the subscription fee, I think it's a fair deal. > -- > Larry > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). > http://calendar.yahoo.com > >

