Yikes!

In the near future I want to send my All Rounder to Mark N. and have a plate
put on.  Pretty easy to get that done, it's then having it re-painted that
kills ya'!

DE

On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Pete <pedalling.p...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> The Bleriot chainstays are probably a bit thicker than most tube sets.
> But I must tell you I had a very disappointing experience of the ESGE-
> Pletscher double stand. Mounted a new one to my converted MTB-tourer
> made from Tange Prestige, not the ul-light version, for a six month
> tour from Singapore to Hong Kong. To avoid problems I used both a
> nylock nut and soft Loctite but after only a few days the stand came
> loose. I mistook this as the nut loosening and started to tight it
> down. I still kept coming loose but before I realised what had really
> happened one leg snapped straight off! I had the bike fully loaded and
> pulled it up on the stand while on a gravel road. One leg ended up on
> a stone buried in the sand and shattered right of like glass. A month
> or so later in Chiang Mai I had the bike serviced and found out that
> in fact the weight of the luggage had pressed the stays down and
> deformed them witch was the cause for the stand to come loose. There
> were even some holes so I swapped the frame for a new as I was unsure
> of the availability of good steel frames in Laos and China. Now, I'm
> sure this doesnt happen in most cases where the bike is only used for
> light touring, centuries and so on. But it is worth to remember and
> maybe considering adding a larger diy support plate between the clamp
> and frame.
>
> On 16 Aug, 00:44, eflayer <eddie.fla...@att.net> wrote:
> > wow, everything you ever wanted to know.  thanks.  had a double one on
> > my easy racer tour easy.  have a rear triangle one on my kogswell.
> > that stand is ugly, but works like a charm.  think the bleriot deseves
> > to join the kickstand club.  think i'll try the make a gasket trick to
> > protect that fine bluish paint job.
> >
> > On Aug 15, 2:39 pm, Dave Craig <dcr...@prescott.edu> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > I've recently rediscovered kickstands after decades of thinking they
> > > were too geeky for my bikes. In fact, I've kind of become sort of a
> > > kickstand evangelist! I've got experience now on several bikes with
> > > three major types of stands, the two you describe and the pletscher
> > > double kickstand. They all work fine, although on a recent tour, I had
> > > to reluctantly admit that the rear triangle stand I had installed on
> > > my wife's bike worked way better than my Swiss stand. The rear
> > > triangle mount works great on uneven ground, on hills and with heavy
> > > touring loads. I used a single leg stand mounted on a kickstand plate.
> > > I had to be much more attentive to how I parked.
> >
> > > Here's a couple of quick tips for doing a good job on your chainstay
> > > mounted stand:
> >
> > > 1) Wrap your chainstays to prevent scratching before installing the
> > > kickstand. Actually, only the areas where the kickstand mounting
> > > plates contact the frame need to be protected. I do this by cutting
> > > some "make a gasket" to fit the mounting plates - you'll need to punch
> > > a hole for the bolt (gasket material is sold in the plumbing section
> > > at True Value - it is more durable than other materials).
> >
> > > 2) Kickstands often come loose over time. To prevent this, buy a
> > > stainless steel bolt that is long enough to go through both plates
> > > with room to attach a nylock nut. Or, with the supplied bolt, use
> > > Locktite Blue and a lock washer.
> >
> > > 3) Install the stand. Before you tighten it down fully with nylocks or
> > > otherwise, check to see if your bike leans securely onto the stand. If
> > > it's too upright, you'll need to trim the kickstand. It is tempting to
> > > do this while the stand is on the bike and with an electric cutting
> > > tool, it works. If you are using a hacksaw, take the stand off to cut
> > > it. You'll do better work and you won't risk damaging your paint. Take
> > > the time to file down the rough cut edges on the stand. This will make
> > > the rubber foot last much longer. Use the rubber foot as it makes the
> > > stand friendlier to floors and it helps keep the stand from sinking
> > > into soft ground.
> >
> > > 4) Tighten the stand onto the stays. You want to do this carefully and
> > > incrementally. Tighten and check for play in the plate. If it wiggles
> > > when you check by hand, tighten it a little more, test, and repeat. Be
> > > sure you are checking the plate and not the kickstand itself. The
> > > kickstand has play in it. Watch the mounting plate to see if it moves
> > > on the chainstays. Recheck your kickstand from time to time.
> >
> > > 5) Kickstanded bikes often fall because the bike rolls forward or
> > > backward. For really secure kickstand parking, install a simple
> > > parking brake. I use a loop of narrow bungee cord around the bars tied
> > > tight enough to keep the brakes applied. The loop stays on my bars.
> > > When I park, I apply the brakes and I stretch the bungee onto the
> > > brake lever.  The front wheel is usually the culprit, so I ordinarily
> > > use that brake as my parking brake.
> >
> > > That's it!!
> >
> > > On Aug 15, 7:12 am, eflayer <eddie.fla...@att.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > Will a Pletscher or Greenfield kickstand clamp on the chainstays
> right
> > > > behind the seat tube?  I know you can get those clunky ones that
> mount
> > > > at the rear of the bike, but was wondering if the space behind the
> > > > seat tube is condusive?- Hide quoted text -
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> >
>


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Cheers,
David
Redlands, CA

"Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something
wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym."  ~Bill Nye,
scientist guy

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