That is probably the sensible thing to do. Riv and other US
manufacturers have have learned from the Europeans and started to fit
such plate on some models so there seem to be a need for it.
Besides, you get to pick your favorite colour! :P

After my experience with the ESGE-Pletscher I tried to get hold of the
Hebie 605 bi-pod stand. It's supposed to be more durable. But the
importer in my part of the woods wasn't up for it. But I think they
are worth a look:
http://www.hebie.de/Home.1.0.html?&L=1

Clever Cycles spec them so they seem to be available in the US:
http://clevercycles.com/store/?c=web2.173

They also make a durable one leg stand that mount to the rear stays
but it's perhaps not as nice on the eye.
;)


On 17 Aug, 07:46, David Estes <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yikes!
>
> In the near future I want to send my All Rounder to Mark N. and have a plate
> put on.  Pretty easy to get that done, it's then having it re-painted that
> kills ya'!
>
> DE
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Pete <pedalling.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The Bleriot chainstays are probably a bit thicker than most tube sets.
> > But I must tell you I had a very disappointing experience of the ESGE-
> > Pletscher double stand. Mounted a new one to my converted MTB-tourer
> > made from Tange Prestige, not the ul-light version, for a six month
> > tour from Singapore to Hong Kong. To avoid problems I used both a
> > nylock nut and soft Loctite but after only a few days the stand came
> > loose. I mistook this as the nut loosening and started to tight it
> > down. I still kept coming loose but before I realised what had really
> > happened one leg snapped straight off! I had the bike fully loaded and
> > pulled it up on the stand while on a gravel road. One leg ended up on
> > a stone buried in the sand and shattered right of like glass. A month
> > or so later in Chiang Mai I had the bike serviced and found out that
> > in fact the weight of the luggage had pressed the stays down and
> > deformed them witch was the cause for the stand to come loose. There
> > were even some holes so I swapped the frame for a new as I was unsure
> > of the availability of good steel frames in Laos and China. Now, I'm
> > sure this doesnt happen in most cases where the bike is only used for
> > light touring, centuries and so on. But it is worth to remember and
> > maybe considering adding a larger diy support plate between the clamp
> > and frame.
>
> > On 16 Aug, 00:44, eflayer <eddie.fla...@att.net> wrote:
> > > wow, everything you ever wanted to know.  thanks.  had a double one on
> > > my easy racer tour easy.  have a rear triangle one on my kogswell.
> > > that stand is ugly, but works like a charm.  think the bleriot deseves
> > > to join the kickstand club.  think i'll try the make a gasket trick to
> > > protect that fine bluish paint job.
>
> > > On Aug 15, 2:39 pm, Dave Craig <dcr...@prescott.edu> wrote:
>
> > > > I've recently rediscovered kickstands after decades of thinking they
> > > > were too geeky for my bikes. In fact, I've kind of become sort of a
> > > > kickstand evangelist! I've got experience now on several bikes with
> > > > three major types of stands, the two you describe and the pletscher
> > > > double kickstand. They all work fine, although on a recent tour, I had
> > > > to reluctantly admit that the rear triangle stand I had installed on
> > > > my wife's bike worked way better than my Swiss stand. The rear
> > > > triangle mount works great on uneven ground, on hills and with heavy
> > > > touring loads. I used a single leg stand mounted on a kickstand plate.
> > > > I had to be much more attentive to how I parked.
>
> > > > Here's a couple of quick tips for doing a good job on your chainstay
> > > > mounted stand:
>
> > > > 1) Wrap your chainstays to prevent scratching before installing the
> > > > kickstand. Actually, only the areas where the kickstand mounting
> > > > plates contact the frame need to be protected. I do this by cutting
> > > > some "make a gasket" to fit the mounting plates - you'll need to punch
> > > > a hole for the bolt (gasket material is sold in the plumbing section
> > > > at True Value - it is more durable than other materials).
>
> > > > 2) Kickstands often come loose over time. To prevent this, buy a
> > > > stainless steel bolt that is long enough to go through both plates
> > > > with room to attach a nylock nut. Or, with the supplied bolt, use
> > > > Locktite Blue and a lock washer.
>
> > > > 3) Install the stand. Before you tighten it down fully with nylocks or
> > > > otherwise, check to see if your bike leans securely onto the stand. If
> > > > it's too upright, you'll need to trim the kickstand. It is tempting to
> > > > do this while the stand is on the bike and with an electric cutting
> > > > tool, it works. If you are using a hacksaw, take the stand off to cut
> > > > it. You'll do better work and you won't risk damaging your paint. Take
> > > > the time to file down the rough cut edges on the stand. This will make
> > > > the rubber foot last much longer. Use the rubber foot as it makes the
> > > > stand friendlier to floors and it helps keep the stand from sinking
> > > > into soft ground.
>
> > > > 4) Tighten the stand onto the stays. You want to do this carefully and
> > > > incrementally. Tighten and check for play in the plate. If it wiggles
> > > > when you check by hand, tighten it a little more, test, and repeat. Be
> > > > sure you are checking the plate and not the kickstand itself. The
> > > > kickstand has play in it. Watch the mounting plate to see if it moves
> > > > on the chainstays. Recheck your kickstand from time to time.
>
> > > > 5) Kickstanded bikes often fall because the bike rolls forward or
> > > > backward. For really secure kickstand parking, install a simple
> > > > parking brake. I use a loop of narrow bungee cord around the bars tied
> > > > tight enough to keep the brakes applied. The loop stays on my bars.
> > > > When I park, I apply the brakes and I stretch the bungee onto the
> > > > brake lever.  The front wheel is usually the culprit, so I ordinarily
> > > > use that brake as my parking brake.
>
> > > > That's it!!
>
> > > > On Aug 15, 7:12 am, eflayer <eddie.fla...@att.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > Will a Pletscher or Greenfield kickstand clamp on the chainstays
> > right
> > > > > behind the seat tube?  I know you can get those clunky ones that
> > mount
> > > > > at the rear of the bike, but was wondering if the space behind the
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> --
> Cheers,
> David
> Redlands, CA
>
> "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something
> wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym."  ~Bill Nye,
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