OK, OK, I don't really want to sneer at anyone. Overspoke as usual. What I
mean is that buying a bike just to --oh hell, if someone buys a bike and
kit to look like a fat Wiggins or whoever is the current idol, then more
power to him; even more if he rides it hard. Years ago I heard of a manager
at Bikeology whose hobby was spending money on his road bike to make it
lighter; he didn't ride it that much. Well, it's better than blow and even
less weird (I am entitled to my opinion) than male Little Pony afficionados.

>From now on I am curtailing my sneers and limiting myself to polite
snickers.

Patrick Moore, trying not to be judgmental in spring-time ABQ, NM (no
flowers, though).


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Brewster Fong <bfd...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Sunday, April 20, 2014 7:40:19 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>
>> I personally sneer, and do so with great glee and spite, at stupid light
>> racing frames sold to fat middle aged men who buy them because they want to
>> pretend they are pro racers, or because they are too ignorant to know
>> better, or because they want to show off how expensive a bike they can buy.
>> (Well, I try not to be spiteful toward ignorance.)
>>
>
> Well, I guess you would be "sneering" at me! Yes, I'm a fat, overweight
> middle aged guy who has a carbon bike! I love it! Now I don't profess to be
> a "racer," I try not to be "ignorant" and definitely don't have enough
> money to show off. But, one reason alot of people get carbon *racing* bikes
> is pyschological. I know everyone here says that doesn't matter and are
> happy to ride their 20+ lb bike up that big hill.
>
> But, for the majority of my friends, getting carbon is the way to get up
> that big hill faster! Yes, we all know it is still the engine.
> Nevertheless, IF my friends *think* that riding a 15-17lb bike is going to
> get them up the hill faster, guess what, it will!
>
> If you look at the latest carbon wonder bikes coming out of Taiwan, they
> are light and so far appear durable! I have an older Calfee (bought used in
> 97 and have been riding it ever since) with 9 speed Campy and it weighs in
> at a whopping 18lbs!  In comparison, several of my buddies have bought the
> latest carbon from Taiwan - Willier (15lbs with Sram Red), one guy with a
> Time (OK, its made in France) with Sram Red that weighs about 16lb and
> couple of Trek Madones with Ultegra di2 that weigh in at about 16lbs. Their
> owners are riding faster than ever. In fact, my one friend, who just
> purchased the Trek with di2, is new to riding, has lost 15lbs and is
> climbing like a monster! He says its the bike. We all know its the 15lb
> weight loss. Nevertheless, it motivated him and isn't what really matters?
>
> So, if carbon gets people on bikes and out and riding, what's the
> problems?! Good Luck!
>
>
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