I had very solid and noise free fenders with the Berthoud stainless steels
and Honjo hammered aluminums that I used on one commuter. I remember
banging the trailing edge of the front Berthoud on a high curb when I
carelessly forgot to lift the wheel as I dropped off. BAM! I got off
fearing I'd ruined the fender and my ride, to find that the only damage was
that the fender bowed out a bit under the down tube. A couple of firm
shoves put it back in order.

Caveat: As Jan points out, metal fenders will break if attached under
stress. My rear Honjo cracked after ~2 years of commuting under the brake
bridge where I'd forced the bend. I've not had this problem with plastic
fenders (which I always force shape).

Plastics: I've used PB and SKS 60s off road with no rattles or failure;
none on road with these brands and narrower models, a fortiori.

Patrick Moore, stalling on installing a pair of SKS 45s on his Ram in
"monsoon" ABQ, NM (you have to work at catching a shower, even though July
has been a rainy month by our standards).


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 11:04 AM, bo richardson <borus...@gmail.com> wrote:

> i was riding my 54 Rambouillet 700c downhill recently.
> there was a rattle from the front fender
> it got worse suddenly
> i got my hands on the bars and the front fender
> mounting hardware came loose
> and rolled between the tire and the fender
> this tore the fender off and threw it in front of the bike
> Questions
>
> the fenders were vo metal
> not hammered not round
> whatever the third option was
>
> they never fit especially well and were noisy
>
> is this the nature of fenders?
> when i replace the fender
> is there some option
> others have liked better?
> or should i order another pair of vos and just replace the front?
> jack browns for tires
>
> thanks for the expertise
>
> bo
> bellingham
>
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