I have no idea how the food chain of locks plays in the typical drug-needy 
bike thief, they are looking for items to sell fast, at a known price. Here 
the police responding to a friend's break-in said there are dealer of hot 
goods that frequent certain convenience store parking lots  and have sort 
of a fixed price wholesale trade; CDs $3, DVDs $5, laptops $50, and bikes 
usually trade from junkie thieves for $20. I don't think the aforethought 
of a cordless angle grinder and ability to spot a secluded-enough bike to 
chop free occurs in this criminal subset. The good news about this tier of 
thief is that they are not discriminating, any bike will score them the 
same price. 

Someone willing to fight better security of location and locking is a 
bike-specific thief and those rings do move around regions to hit the 
value, fill their till and move on before their pattern is clear to 
enforcement. Info on the guy with Rusty Clicks Sam will be interesting to 
hear. one of those rings and individuals making contacts locally, 
establishing a background that built  plausibility for higher volume of 
parts and frames for sale. They disappear when someone starts asking 
questions.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh
On Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:00:15 PM UTC-4, Jim M. wrote:
>
> On Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:46:54 AM UTC-7, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro 
> wrote:
>>
>> Which raises an interesting question, since many of us use 
>> U-locks-and-cable approaches.  Are there ways of locking up with a U-lock 
>> (preferrably a smallish one) that defeat most methods of defeating the 
>> things?
>>
>> Simple answer: No. 
>
> An angle grinder will cut through any u-lock pretty quickly. You can see 
> videos on youtube of how fast it is. I've seen a titanium lock -- Tigr IIRC 
> -- that will delay an angle grinder longer, but still isn't uncuttable. It 
> sounds like the recovered Sam had it's lock picked or else not latched 
> completely.
>
>
> jim m
> wc ca
>

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