Hi Andy,
First, I'd like to point out that this was not my Sam.  The owner used the 
local, bike centric social media to spread the word about his stolen S. 
Hillborne. 
Secondly, I agree that it takes a more sophisticated bike thief to 
recognize the "prize", and then have the means to defeat the defenses we 
put on them.  It wasn't a coincidence that this happened during the week 
when urban planners from around N. America  were in Pittsburgh to attend 
the Pro Walk/Pro Bike Conference.   More bike people--more nice bikes.   I 
wonder about the, arguably "smart" bike thief, then strolling into a well 
known bike shop like Thick Bikes, and not expecting some raised eyebrows.   
It will be interesting to get that info when it's out.


Rusty



On Friday, September 12, 2014 5:42:54 AM UTC-4, ascpgh wrote:
>
> I have no idea how the food chain of locks plays in the typical drug-needy 
> bike thief, they are looking for items to sell fast, at a known price. Here 
> the police responding to a friend's break-in said there are dealer of hot 
> goods that frequent certain convenience store parking lots  and have sort 
> of a fixed price wholesale trade; CDs $3, DVDs $5, laptops $50, and bikes 
> usually trade from junkie thieves for $20. I don't think the aforethought 
> of a cordless angle grinder and ability to spot a secluded-enough bike to 
> chop free occurs in this criminal subset. The good news about this tier of 
> thief is that they are not discriminating, any bike will score them the 
> same price. 
>
> Someone willing to fight better security of location and locking is a 
> bike-specific thief and those rings do move around regions to hit the 
> value, fill their till and move on before their pattern is clear to 
> enforcement. Info on the guy with Rusty Clicks Sam will be interesting to 
> hear. one of those rings and individuals making contacts locally, 
> establishing a background that built  plausibility for higher volume of 
> parts and frames for sale. They disappear when someone starts asking 
> questions.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
> On Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:00:15 PM UTC-4, Jim M. wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:46:54 AM UTC-7, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Which raises an interesting question, since many of us use 
>>> U-locks-and-cable approaches.  Are there ways of locking up with a U-lock 
>>> (preferrably a smallish one) that defeat most methods of defeating the 
>>> things?
>>>
>>> Simple answer: No. 
>>
>> An angle grinder will cut through any u-lock pretty quickly. You can see 
>> videos on youtube of how fast it is. I've seen a titanium lock -- Tigr IIRC 
>> -- that will delay an angle grinder longer, but still isn't uncuttable. It 
>> sounds like the recovered Sam had it's lock picked or else not latched 
>> completely.
>>
>>
>> jim m
>> wc ca
>>
>

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