On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 3:30 PM, newenglandbike <matthiasbe...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Not even a stamp? No names or logos seems like a pretty strict > requirement for an artisan to adhere to. I only say this because I > wouldn't call a builder's identity 'advertising' if all it amounted to > was a stamp on the bottom bracket or something, and I certainly would > *not* look at a custom frame as merely equivalent to/a product of > someone's skill and time. If something as personal as a custom > bicycle frame was built by human hands, whether it be an individual or > multiple people, I think it should have some marking to identify those > hands. >
I go out of my way to buy clothing that does not have any logos. I don't always succeed but I try. I like my atlantis. I think it is a great bike. I think rivendell is a great company. If I'm buying production items and I'm happy with the company then I'm willing to compromise on my requirements a bit. However, if I'm paying for something to be custom then I expect built into the cost of custom building it is the reality that it will have no markings save the ones I want. I spent hours removing all the logos from almost all the parts on a number of bikes. I've unstitched embroidered logos on pants and jackets. Removed patch logos. (seam rippers are wonderful tools) If someone wants to know what products I endorse then they can ask me. I do not wish to be compelled to do otherwise. And like I said - I'm not unwilling to compromise, to a point.( That little laser-etched logo from Velo-orange annoys the crap out of me, though) but for fully custom-made objects I expect no brands or logos. No stamps, nothing unless it is something I request. I don't think I'm being unreasonable at all, especially b/c I don't dogmatically follow this rule. -sv --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---