I would say the Clem are really a 2nd gen product. The first long chainstay bike was the Cheviot, maybe 19" chainstays (?), while the bigger models Clem come in around 21" (? again). So, it seems Grant likes what he had in the Cheviut, but wanted MORE!
And pretty much all Riv models have ~80mm of bottom bracket drop for 700c models. Don't see that changing. On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 5:51 PM, masmojo <masm...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Well, it should not be confusing; to be sure as much as I admire Grant, it > would be wrong to sit back, put him & Rivendell on a pedestal and prostrate > myself in front of him. The people on this forum can be a bit gushy, but > without (construtive) criticism where are you!? > I am not really talking about making the Clems any less Clemish, merely > accentuating the positive & eliminating most of the negative. If there is > an issue, but we minimize it as if it doesn't exist, who does that serve? > Nobody really! > I am not talking about making the Clems short chain stay bikes, merely not > quite so long! ;-) > The Clems were designed on a clean sheet of paper and were sort of an > experiment, with that in mind it makes sense that the first generation > wouldn't be perfect. They never are! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
