I have seen what the web site states; but when I asked my daughter to 
measure the CS on her 50 cm Cheviot, she reported 42.5.  She lives about 40 
miles from me, but the next time I am at her home I will measure them 
myself just to make sure we are starting at the same point.  

Michael

On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 9:46:10 AM UTC-4, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>
> Hi Michael,
> The Cheviot has chain stays that get longer with larger sizes. (Chart pic 
> on http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f-cheviot.htm)
> 50cm frame -- 45cm chain stay
> 55 frame -- 50cm chain stay
> 60 frame -- 54cm chain stay
>  
> I think this is fairly unusual for a manufacturer to have different chain 
> stays for different sizes. Grant wrote about how frames get taller faster 
> than they get longer in one of the Readers. This seems a more 
> "proportionate" way to size frames-- but I don't know if it is meaningful 
> (or not). 
>
> If you're in between sizes, then this might be another thing to consider. 
>
> shoji
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 7:36:53 AM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>>
>> My wife's  55 cm Betty has 43.5 cm chain stays.  I know that the RBW site 
>> list the Cheviot at 45cm, but I couldn't see any difference when I built my 
>> daughter's bike up.  I called her and asked her to measure the chain stay 
>> on her 50 cm Cheviot and she got 16.75", which comes to 42.5.  She may be 
>> wrong but she is certainly not off by an inch.  Perhaps there was a design 
>> change since the introduction.  We bought the last of the first batch.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 7:54:52 AM UTC-4, Eric Daume wrote:
>>>
>>> They Cheviot has significantly longer stays than the Betty. It's more 
>>> than just a color and name change (that was the Yves Gomez model)
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 7:22 AM, Michael Hechmer <mhec...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My wife has a Betty (nearly identical to a Cevy) and my daughter a 
>>>> Cheviot and the both love them.  My daughter opted for drop bars on hers 
>>>> and found they work quite well, so that is an option.  I suspect that the 
>>>> changes from Betty to Chevy, which mostly consisted of color & name were 
>>>> made to give the bike more appeal to men.  So my suggestion to be don't 
>>>> let 
>>>> others opinion of your testosterone level guide your choice.  You will 
>>>> however need new wheels since your Trek is 700C & the Chevy 650B, which in 
>>>> my mind is a big, big, plus.
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 8:45:34 AM UTC-4, SeanMac wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> I had the opportunity to spend a few hours at Riv HQ a few Saturday's 
>>>>> ago.  I had a wonderful time - I rode four bikes (Clem, Cheviot, Sam and 
>>>>> Hubbuhubbah), and walked away with a medium saddlesack bag.  Still smile 
>>>>> when I think about the fun I had.  Most of my riding (about an hour) was 
>>>>> done on the Clem.  I enjoyed the ride, but it did not really speak to me. 
>>>>>  
>>>>> Perhaps it was just too different from the bikes that I typically ride.  
>>>>> Strangely enough, the bike that emerged as my favorite was the Cheviot.  
>>>>> I 
>>>>> can't seem to get it out of my head.  In fact, ever since I returned 
>>>>> home, 
>>>>> I have been trying to figure out if I loved the Chev enough to purchase 
>>>>> one 
>>>>> before they go away.  Here is my situation.
>>>>>
>>>>> About ten years ago I had a custom-built Bob Brown Cycle made for me.  
>>>>> I nearly bought a Rambouillet, but chose Bob Brown instead.  It was my 
>>>>> poor-man's red convertible that I got for my 40th birthday.  That bike 
>>>>> complimented my circa 1990 Trek 520 quite well.  My Bob Brown was 
>>>>> quick-ish, sporty and fun to ride.  However, as the years went by, I 
>>>>> found 
>>>>> it to be increasingly uncomfortable for longer ride.  Two years ago I 
>>>>> bought a Black Mountain Road bike.  This bike has a bit more relaxed 
>>>>> geometry.  I really love this bike - it is much more comfortable than Bob 
>>>>> Brown, and has become the bike that I grab most often.  In fact, Bob 
>>>>> Brown 
>>>>> typically sees the road only once or twice a year - it is typically the 
>>>>> bike that I use on my indoor trainer.  My Trek 520 has been turned into a 
>>>>> grocery-getter.  However, it does not bring me a great deal of joy to 
>>>>> ride, 
>>>>> but it gets the job done.
>>>>>
>>>>> In my mind, I see the Cheviot as a replacement for my Trek 520.  
>>>>> Nearly all of the components that I have on the Trek would easily 
>>>>> transfer 
>>>>> to the Chev - meaning that my initial output of cash would be only for 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> frame.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've read through everything that I can find on the list about the 
>>>>> Cheviot.  I would love to hear impressions from those who have had the 
>>>>> bike 
>>>>> long term.  Likes?  Dislikes?  Dealing with the "guy on a girl's bike" 
>>>>> thing is perhaps an issue.  However, as I approach 50 I see the benefit 
>>>>> of 
>>>>> the lower top tube.  Besides, when I rode the Cheviot in Walnut Creek, I 
>>>>> did not even think about the fact that I was riding a mixte, as I was 
>>>>> simply enjoying the ride.
>>>>>
>>>>> I live in a small town in western New York - with short rides (mile or 
>>>>> two) to the co-op grocery store, library, post office, etc.  This is the 
>>>>> type of riding, along with occasional paved and/or gravel path riding) 
>>>>> that 
>>>>> I see myself doing with a Cheviot.  What do you think -- good choice in 
>>>>> bikes?
>>>>>
>>>>> What about a Sam?  I rode a Sam the other day as well, but it was set 
>>>>> up with Noodle bars, and rode much more like a typical road bike.  If I 
>>>>> set 
>>>>> it up with Albatross bars, bags, etc how would it likely compare with the 
>>>>> Cheviot?  Would it ride the same and put the same smile on my face 
>>>>> without 
>>>>> causing me and/or those seeing me question my manliness?
>>>>>
>>>>> Any insight on these issues would be appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Sean
>>>>> East Aurora, NY
>>>>>
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