Wow that exchange was painful! I did get a chuckle out of some of it. I think Mobile 155's glass is definitely half empty.
I am still getting my head around the Rivendell paradigm. I loved Grant's recent story about the girl who saw him on a trail on Mount Diablo and laughed at him and said "nice basket". It makes me chuckle even though Grant didn't see the humor of the situation. Grant's response was very interesting. See quote below... It is interesting to see how people don't get "just ride". They are so deeply entrenched in the racing is the measure of goodness or greatness paradigm. "Last week on a morning group ride (me, Mark, Brian, Roman) here out on the trails, I was grunting up the last hill on my basketed CLEM, and they were standing there with three other riders, and as I was cresting, one of the unknown riders said ”nice basket!” with a chuckle. Then to the group, “You guys should ride Eroica—it’d be perfect for you.” All harmless on the surface, but it bothered and bugged me that she was so unaccustomed to seeing unsuspended steel bikes that she thought it must have been a philosophy of life; and that we rubes would enjoy riding with others of our kind. Like, *hey Amish—you should meet the Mennonites—you got the same kinda deal going on, with the clothes and all!* It can’t be too surprising and I shouldn’t get toooo upset (I’m not, and this is the extent of my venting), but we were there in the open space, with nothing but rolling hills and oaks and dustry trails and barbed-wire fences, riding low key, low tech, perfectly suited bikes (Mark: Custom cross; Brian: Homer; Roman: Sam). The new group was on dual-suspension carbon mtn bikes and had high-key clothing on…which is fine, but the only thing about us that stuck out in the whole scene was nothing, and as the ownerguy of Rivendell, I didn’t like the characterization that I sensed was going on, even if it was all wrong about it and just too defensive. I don’t always have the perfect clue on things like that. Our bikes are normal. They’re just bikes, really good ones, but they’re designed by riding them, not by trends and fear of falling behind them, or out of a need to match our competition’s X-price point model. They aren’t what they aren’t, and they ought to get to be what they are. Argh. OK, enough of that, and happy days are here again. " On Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 9:34:29 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: > > > http://www.bikeforums.net/general-cycling-discussion/1067000-grant-petersen-threat-menace.html > > > > In the past, this group has linked to some virulent threads about GP and > RBW on Bike Forums. > The mods there don't seem to earn their keep in general, and extreme + > rude opinions are often allowed. > In spite of the title, a current thread has run 9 pages and the likes > overwhelmingly out-number the detractions. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
