Dang, that's a bad crack. Hey, we have the same year and color Trek Fuel 
Ex. 

I have a Niner Sir9 which hasn't shown a crack but the frames have been 
known to develop issues in the seat stays near the seat tube. I keep an eye 
on it. Hopefully if it ever does crack, bend, or otherwise show signs of 
failure Niner will do me right. 

On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 12:29:31 PM UTC-5, Eric Daume wrote:

> Somewhat germane to this topic, I recently discovered that my steel Niner 
> mtb frame was nearly cracked through at head tube, while the generic 
> Chinese carbon fork was fine. 
>
> https://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2018/07/rip-ros.html?m=1
>
> Though to the frame’s credit, I did find the crack before the head tube 
> sheared off. 
>
> Eric
>
> On Thursday, July 26, 2018, jack loudon <jwlo...@gmail.com <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
>> Like Joe and Patrick, I also think CF *can* be safe but the buyer/owner 
>> needs to do a lot more due diligence than when buying steel.  Because the 
>> consequences of CF failure are so great, sloppy design and construction 
>> simply can't be tolerated.  I would tend to trust company like Salsa (for 
>> instance) because their CF frames seem to emphasize strength over extreme 
>> light weight.  Their Cutthroat has had plenty of testing on the Tour Divide 
>> and other races, and if Salsa has had CF frame or fork failures, I haven't 
>> heard of them.  OTOH, Salsa had a steel fork recall awhile back.  IMO it's 
>> not the material but the integrity and expertise of the designer/builder.  
>>
>> Jack
>> Seattle
>>
>> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 8:36:48 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>> Patrick, I think the answer is maybe. If you buy a high-end CF bike from 
>>> someone like Calfee who knows what they're doing, I think it would be safe 
>>> IF you don't bang it on something and IF it's inspected regularly. But it's 
>>> still not going to be a race car that, if it fails, spins around and clouts 
>>> a tire wall while you're belted in with a full-face helmet. For me I would 
>>> definitely ride a Calfee frame, but the steering system has to be metal. I 
>>> need those bars in my hands, and that front wheel in its proper location 
>>> and rolling. I don't trust carbon to do that. 
>>
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