Funny, I was told the 51cm had no changes.  We will soon find out.

On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 11:31 AM Ash <ashw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Riv staff.
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> On Saturday, 26 September 2020 at 21:02:10 UTC-7 Joel wrote:
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>> Where did you see those figures?  Thanks
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>> On Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 10:28:15 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
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>>> Oh interesting!  The 51 Sam actually shortened by 15mm then, that
>>> surprises me.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:53 PM Ash <ash...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> If anybody runs into this discussion thread and would be interested in
>>>> top tube lengths on the new Sams,  size 48cm frame has 53cm TT and size
>>>> 51cm frame has 55cm top tube. These are official numbers.
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, 25 September 2020 at 11:35:13 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I forgot to add, I swap between 42mm and 48mm tires on my Sam and I
>>>>> don't notice the difference in standover - I think that is splitting hairs
>>>>> over what's arguably the least important of the fit numbers. I would be
>>>>> surprised if the newest batch of Sams doesn't grow a few mm in the top 
>>>>> tube
>>>>> lengths; the previous batches are quite squarely between drop bar and
>>>>> upright bar fit, which I love because I can now run drops with a 5-6 cm
>>>>> stem or albatross with a 11-12cm stem.  I get the sense though that the 
>>>>> Sam
>>>>> is not being considered a drop bar bike as much anymore by Riv, though I'm
>>>>> just postulating.
>>>>>
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