I like the3 older better at least my eyes do. On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 12:13:07 PM UTC-4 RichS wrote:
> Joel, > > Attached photos show the seat stay cap (Seat Stay 1) used on pre-2020 Sams > and the current socket style as used on Clems, Homers, Roadinis and now > Sams. > Glad you found a Sam in your size. Hope you like it as much as many of us > on the list like the ones we ride. > > Best, > Rich in ATL > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 11:33 AM Joel <jrst...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Rich, I found a leftover 2019 Sam in 51cm, being built up as we speak. I >> knew this one would fit me well as all of the specs were available and the >> help you gave me with measurements. I also did not want to wait till >> October as I want to ride this bike this year as much as I can before the >> weather turns. It should be ready for me tomorrow, had to iron a freewheel >> kink out. >> >> I am not sure what socket seat stays are. I was told the 51cm had no >> changes in chain stay length but we will find out very soon. >> Joel >> On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 11:19:34 AM UTC-4 RichS wrote: >> >>> Hi Joel: >>> >>> Changes also include: >>> 1. Socketed seat stays >>> 2. I'm pretty sure another centimeter has been added to the chain stays >>> >>> Interesting that the new small Sams have the 48cm seat tube that was >>> used on the first edition of Sams. >>> >>> Best, >>> Rich in ATL >>> >>> On Sunday, September 27, 2020 at 1:40:45 PM UTC-4 Joel wrote: >>> >>>> Funny, I was told the 51cm had no changes. We will soon find out. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 11:31 AM Ash <ash...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Riv staff. >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, 26 September 2020 at 21:02:10 UTC-7 Joel wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Where did you see those figures? Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 10:28:15 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh interesting! The 51 Sam actually shortened by 15mm then, that >>>>>>> surprises me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:53 PM Ash <ash...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If anybody runs into this discussion thread and would be interested >>>>>>>> in top tube lengths on the new Sams, size 48cm frame has 53cm TT and >>>>>>>> size >>>>>>>> 51cm frame has 55cm top tube. These are official numbers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Friday, 25 September 2020 at 11:35:13 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I forgot to add, I swap between 42mm and 48mm tires on my Sam and >>>>>>>>> I don't notice the difference in standover - I think that is >>>>>>>>> splitting >>>>>>>>> hairs over what's arguably the least important of the fit numbers. I >>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>> be surprised if the newest batch of Sams doesn't grow a few mm in the >>>>>>>>> top >>>>>>>>> tube lengths; the previous batches are quite squarely between drop >>>>>>>>> bar and >>>>>>>>> upright bar fit, which I love because I can now run drops with a 5-6 >>>>>>>>> cm >>>>>>>>> stem or albatross with a 11-12cm stem. 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