I shall have a cow over the relevancy of the derailleur, it did not cause 
the problem, it was the place where the problem ended. The implement does 
not exist on my Riv, hence the chain suck would have ended at the chain 
eventually dropping out of the suck or - worst case - falling off my single 
chainring. Short of saying Matthew shouldn't have triple rings and a front 
derailleur - which would be insane, I'm not saying that - I can't see how 
the fd was a problem. The chain, it sucked. 

On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 1:15:32 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

> It appears the whole thing was just a "perfect storm" of stuff hitting the 
> fan. The chain appears to be wedged in between the FD and the ring, so 
> yes..... it is surely relevant beyond existing on the frame. The saddle, 
> that's merely existing on the frame and having no part in this. 
>
> My best guess is as good/worthless as any other guess ! I've had some 
> weird chain stuff happen on my Bombadil also, but never jammed up against 
> the FD like that (9-speed cassette and chain w/7-8 speed crank). They don't 
> always get along. My chains are all clean and in perfect working order, 
> adjusted perfectly, yet still.... "every once in a while" in shifting .... 
> W T F  just happened ?   
>
> I do agree though with the gap of the FD being too high, at least in this 
> particular case. Having a full FD cage "may" have prevented it from getting 
> wedged in like it did or to that extent. I said "may", so don't anyone have 
> a cow. .  .  .   moo . ;-) 
>
> We're all just trying to help a guy out of a "jam'. 
>
>>
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