Ok maybe I'm thinking that Starck worked at match before building Rivs. 
Beats me, there's a Joe Starck interview in a Reader that would explain 
stuff. 

On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 1:32:09 PM UTC-7 Doug Van Cleve wrote:

> Match was definitely after Joe Starck, my recollection is they were 
> brought online primarily because Joe could not keep up. While I was waiting 
> for my bike, so around ‘99, the match announcement was made. I think match 
> was making the relatively stock ones and Joe was making the more custom 
> ones. Mine is standard geometry, but custom tube selection, and I requested 
> that Joe make it if possible…
>
> Regards, Doug
>
> P.S.  I seem to recall that the match made bikes were brass brazed, the 
> first time for Rivendell frames, IIRC.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 8:19 PM Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Very strange. My memory is match was first - I think Starck was there at 
>> some point? - then he built on his own and for a while it was split between 
>> Starck and Curt Goodrich, then it was just Curt. 
>>
>> Also this and that and the other thing happened, but I won't go over 
>> those old memories 😬
>>
>

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