Hey Ted. Not sure if you mean the OG Moustache or the Albastache, but I can tell you the OG requires a very short stem compared to drops. It's because the main hand position is the full reach, there really isn't a good tops position like drops. I gather that Albastache was designed mostly to shorten the reach... Also, you can't use upright bar stuff on either of them so a flipped Albatross, Billie or Choco would seem to be best.
Doug On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 9:18 AM Ted W <ted.l.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > That's an interesting idea, Doug. I would have never considered flipping > Albatross bars like that. Another option I've considered is Mustache bars > with flat bar levers near the back instead of the typical road levers up > front. It seems to me like those are similar, if narrower, than something > like the Albatross bar but have a similar (slightly more accentuated) > curve. And, like flipping the albatross bars, would give a drop instead of > a rise... I might play with that idea a bit tonight. > > On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 11:36 AM Doug Van Cleve <dvancl...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hey Ted. >> >> I personally wouldn't run a super short stem, but those wide drops (and >> if I'm not mistaken relatively long reach) are making things worse for >> you. A narrower modern bend, short and shallow drop bar would reduce the >> reach a fair bit, I think. That said, I don't think any of the current >> super long chainstay RBW bikes are really suited for drops. I just put >> together a JA that came with Albatross' and a Technomic, 9cm I think, and >> it feels too close and too tall in front. It's a 51cm IIRC, whichever size >> is 650B, and the PBH size chart would have put me one size smaller. I have >> a Choco-Moose waiting to go on it, I'm hoping that slammed it will give me >> more reach and lower bar height. >> >> Doug >> >> P.S. You might consider flipped Albatross' as well, less reach and drop >> than any actual drop bar but still some... >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 7:08 AM Ted W <ted.l.w...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Got my Appa on Monday, built it yesterday and commuted to work on it >>> today. First impressions are that it's exactly what I had hoped for. The >>> ride is amazing and it feels so plush while still remaining responsive; >>> nimble yet stable. But I think it could still be better and I want to >>> channel the wisdom of the group. >>> >>> Currently, I have the bike built with drop bars (50cm V/O Randonneur). >>> However, I know this frame, like many of the Riv frames, is really built >>> with swept back bars in mind. Knowing this, I went with a stem that's about >>> half my "typical" length. Unfortunately, it still feels like quite a reach >>> to get on the hoods, not impossible, but not "normal". So, this is where my >>> question starts: >>> >>> Do I continue to try shortening the stem, say to maybe 30-40mm, or do I >>> give in to my swept bar destiny and spring for some new bars? And if I go >>> with sweeps, which bars do people like on the Appa? I have 65mm Tosco bars >>> on my Gus and it's wonderful on that bike, but being that I don't want to >>> be quite so upright (and there's not quite as much room) on the Appa. I was >>> thinking of going with either Billie or Albatross bars. The two are so >>> similar, however, that I'm having a hard time deciding between the two. I'm >>> probably splitting hairs, as usual, but I'm genuinely curious to see what >>> y'all think. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> -- >>> Ted Wood < ted.l.w...@gmail.com > >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAK64jTE-PhzxBf%2BjqmNnK_NyPKu7kDL0QpzkbDBVjocGeEci2g%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAK64jTE-PhzxBf%2BjqmNnK_NyPKu7kDL0QpzkbDBVjocGeEci2g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > Ted Wood < ted.l.w...@gmail.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CANCvSho00h-9xNqPDtXLLdiP21oGSmu%3DzPm4JaQ%3DKbnguGvn0g%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CANCvSho00h-9xNqPDtXLLdiP21oGSmu%3DzPm4JaQ%3DKbnguGvn0g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAK64jTGHQ8woWYduzafRXxEKxhd3Hc%3DSvPSm4RyYcmZpjBk%2BRQ%40mail.gmail.com.
