Yep, you're right. Even the earliest Rivs that I can find like Chris Kostman's '95 All-Rounder have more ornate lugs compared to the E-bay bike, and these are much less ornate than more contemporary Rivs.
The ebay bike owner should give the serial number. Has anyone tried asking for it to verify if it's a real serial number for a Riv. You can almost see it in thepics, but it's a bit blurry. Joe From: dvancl...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 21:16:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [RBW] Fw:URL Odd small Riv on Ebay To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Joe, I agree about the paint but I don't recall ever seeing any Riv with plain lugs. There are/were early ones around that don't have the first RBW crown, as the initial testing revealed a flaw and some frames went out with HJ crowns. Even the early Rivs had the Sachs designed lugs to the best of my knowledge. Most curious... Doug On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Joe Bartoe <jbar...@hotmail.com> wrote: I hate to disagree....well, actually I kind of like to disagree. Anyway, if you look around, you'll find that there are plenty of early Rivs that have paint jobs that differ markedly from the current Riv aesthetic. I distinctly remember one that was sort of a limey green metallic with yell head tube and lugfill. And no, Joe Bell would never paint a non-Riv frame and then put Riv decals on it. Also, after the first paintjob, Grant/Riv no longer controls the paint job style choices so if it's a second paintjob, that would also explain the difference. I am a little confused by the poster not knowing the model, though. It would seem that any Riv owner would know that. Then again, an early Riv would likely not have had a model name as they started out kind of simply. It might have just been a road frame. Joe From: dvancl...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 17:20:58 -0700 Subject: Re: [RBW] Fw:URL Odd small Riv on Ebay To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I agree, very odd. Nothing about it says Rivendell except the decals, but JB wouldn't refinish a non-Riv with those decals would he? Doug On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 1:58 PM, trevor segraves <hoont...@yahoo.com> wrote: Almost forgot http://tinyurl.com/2emhsfw ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: trevor segraves <hoont...@yahoo.com> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, July 11, 2010 1:31:16 PM Subject: Odd small Riv on Ebay Simple lugs, Henry James crown, granted it is a small frame, but nothing on this bike says Riv to me accept the decals and badge, even the water bottle bosses seam oddly placed. Any thoughts?Trevor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.